Travel advice has legal effect, it invalidates travel insurance. Itâs serious.
Most people tend to follow it.
Passenger numbers and flights scheduled in and out of Ireland are way down compared to other EU countries that donât advise people not to travel, or are at least selective in their advice.
No we havenât blockaded planes from landing or taking off but youâre arguing this point is silly. We have this advice against travel in effect, most EU countries do not.
Check the list above. Most countries have travel advisories. We arenât an outlier, in fact we are a bit as we havenât differentiated between EU and non EU countries. A lot of countries have flat banned non EU entry (Sweden for example)
Have you a source for this information?
Absolutely no country is following a policy of herd immunity. You keep talking about it but you donât appear to understand it.
How do they compare to ours? Have they had really restrictive travel advice over the last four months? What are their flight numbers and passenger numbers like compared to us?
Look, we have the most restrictive stance on travel of any EU country and have had for some months. Itâs borne out in the reductions in our passenger figures and numbers of flights compared to others and Tim has posted stats on it before.
Those are two facts, arguing anything else is simply wrong.
Why is travel so important for you?
Are you lobbying for the aviation industry?
they arenât facts. Hungary is flat out closed
Yeah. Most of the EU decided on free travel between eu countries +13 others back in July. We opted out.
It is because itâs riddled.
so it isnât a fact. Hungary is closed internally, they arenât letting people in
Travel bans but also allowed out with social distancing on cheap ryanair planes
Either that or theyâre trying to poison us.
Why is travel important for an island at the edge of Europe that prides itself on being the most open and international economy in the world?
Hmmm.
Virgin having a Zero-COVID debate on the Tonight Show on Wednesday night. Expect all the usual characters involved.
Weâre in a pandemic, international travel will be the last thing to return.
The number of flights in Ireland was down something like 90% over the summer months, they were down by 56% iirc across Europe. Loads would have been smaller but Ireland absolutely was below other European countries. It wasnât an accident that Italy saw more bookings vs. France for the summer period.
Ireland went for a ridiculously low standard vs. the ECDC recommendations of June. It was basically a fudge as Nphet wanted mandatory quarantines and no real travel while the Government were trying to keep the ECDC in check. Even Britain, who we slagged off for wanting to cut itself off from Europe, had a more liberal travel advice for the country.
It was a huge mistake by the Government. We should have used this summer without American tourists to really push into the European market with discounts etc. for them. We are a country that does disproportionately well out of aviation but decided to throw that aside.
When did they close? Pretty much all the EU bar Ireland have had international travel all summer. Itâs a fact.
Flights and passenger numbers in Ireland are way down compared to the rest of Europe. So our measure worked.
But our covid numbers went up⌠So it was pointless.
No international travel is operational in most countries. It is already here.
Just not in Ireland.
since you wonât read the list i sent you.
hereâs belgium
Are the borders open? Yes. Belgium is dropping a ban on travel to areas marked high-risk from September 25, in favor of âstrongâ advice not to travel there.
Do arrivals have to quarantine? Belgium operates a traffic light system: Quarantine and testing is mandatory for travelers arriving from areas listed as high-risk (marked red). A quarantine is recommended for travelers from areas marked orange, meaning thereâs an increased risk. Find the full list here.
Are there any other entry requirements? From August 1, all travelers who intend to stay in Belgium for at least 48 hours (and have been abroad for more than 48 hours) have to fill out a so-called Passenger Locator Form before their arrival.
What about travelers from outside Europe? Travelers from countries on the EUâs safe list can enter Belgium, but may face a mandatory quarantine: Tunisia and Georgia, for instance, are currently labeled red.
Status: Cautious.
Strong advice
All spot on.
On top of that, we now have worse covid rates than countries that have had international travel for months.
So, we cost ourselves fuck loads and saved nothing.
Donât we look stupid.
So Belgian is selective and allows free travel from safe countries.
Thanks.