Yes they were applying the ECDC advise, which gave a far higher threshold than here. Similarly the UK did as well. At the start of the summer that meant nearly all European countries were marked as âsafeâ.
We went for a standard that was a fraction of the ECDC. The standard we went for in Ireland was based on our own 14 day Covid incidence, which was remarkably low at that point.
It was ridiculously stupid and pointless.
Iâve been trying to explain this.
Iâm not arguing whether or not it was a good idea. Iâm arguing the point that people think we are in outlier in that we have tried to restrict movement into and out of the country. Everywhere has done it to some degree or another.
by using incorrect facts, which you were giving out shit about recently
No country has announced officially they are going for herd immunity but countryâs are. Again whats your alternatives? Vaccine isnât coming? Lockomg in and pointing finger at people for not stopping an airborne disease? Rat out your neighbour for breaking restrictions. Let peopel live their lives and give them the information they need. Deaths have flattened completely. As I said earlier we are over reacting. We have seen worse viruses TB polio measles and got on with life until we found vaccines
Ireland were certainly an outlier in how strict we were.
We allowed green lists later than everywhere else and had more restrictions. The EU were recommending allowing people from the likes of Canada in without quarantine as well due to their low Covid incidences at the time.
We might not have banned flights, but we have made it very difficult to make it viable to get in and the flight data reflects that.
Weâre in a pandemic, I hardly think importing and exporting the spread of the virus should be encouraged.
Looks stable, like in the north.
Whoâs we?
The pandemic has made travel difficult all over the World. Countries are trying to deal with their own borders. Nowhere has been fully open. Ireland has been more open than some and less than others.
All you have to do is fill out a passenger locator form. No tests, no quarantine, no nothing.
https://www.iaa.ie/news/2020/10/12/irish-and-trans-atlantic-air-traffic-down-57-in-nine-months
fairly similar rates there @Tim_Riggins
More deja vu here today than normal. Lads are tiring.
In European terms, yes we were.
There was a golden chance for Ireland to take the lead once the ECDC came forward with travel advice. We could lead on bringing in better monitoring at airports, lead on encouraging other countries to apply standards etc. We need aviation for our connectivity, we need it for trading and we need it to connect to mainland Europe even more with Brexit. And we had a whole host of hotels and B&Bs empty all summer.
You were supposed to quarantine from many EU countries into Ireland over the summer, like France for example. It was a silly decision all round & wasnât based on much more than a fudge.
Probably due to Covid mate.
youâre basing your reasoning on people travelling for tourism during a pandemic?
To be fair, at least Tim is fairly consistent about opening the place up.
Conversely, @glasagusban wants to lock the country down but with the caveat that he go on foreign holidays.
thatâs the thing. Let people into the country but they canât do anything. I think that would have a very negative impact on future tourism. You can come but the pubs and restaurants are closed and you canât visit any of the sites.
please fill out a tourist survey form on how likely you are to recommend Ireland to a friend
@glasagusban can go and come as he pleases. There is literally nothing stopping him
There is no issue with opening up travel from countries with safe levels of Covid. See what the EU Commission stated
On the basis of the work done by the ECDC and EASA, the commission has invited member states to progressively restore transport services and connectivity. On June 11th, European commissioner for home affairs Ylva Johansson called upon member states to lift all border restrictions within the European Union by June 15th.
The commissioner stated: âWith the health situation now improving in the EU, the commission recommended on June 11th that member states remove such restrictions by June 15th, 2020.â Ireland stands alone within the EU as having failed to do so.
Ireland went for a level of 5 cases per 100,000 over 14 days, ridiculously low.
Ireland had one month to consider it but bottled making the call, Martin then came back from Brussels moaning that he had to.
Yes, we wasted a summer on it.
We couldnât lift restrictions because we didnât have any Tim. Ryanair lost a court case recently on it. They have only ever had recommendations
Yes we did. Quarantining when coming into the country for 14 days is a restriction.
Itâs not that difficult. Why do you think the Spanish Government went ape when the UK took them off their list?
Live in the real world here please and stop pretending.
this wasnât enforced in any way shape or form. If you were travelling for essential work you didnât even have to fill out the passenger location form.
Also, Ireland isnât part of Schengen so even when the EU werenât allowing entries from non EU countries, Ireland were. I think we are still the most open in Europe for non EU arrivals
