Coronavirus thread - 19/10/2020 - The Day Ireland Died

Schools are up there with BLM protests in terms of safety

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Or when you order a €9 meal with your pint, you are safe then.

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Ah the French are tremendous fun.

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Aren’t really much? 1930s Germany was the centre of scientific innovation. We are a nation of dullards who adore fair city and Mrs brown’s boys. Total economic collapse pushed Germany towards extremism. Twitter gently nudged a huge swathe of Irish society to it.

On your other points I don’t think FFG politicians are particularly beloved, they were almost hated by their voters prior to the last election but that just happened to be the most polarising in recent times, us v them, free gaffs. What a time for some on the left to invent those narratives.

I don’t think rte are world beating propagandists, but they dont need to be for a good portion of the population, not seen on this forum.

Your third point is most salient, people gradually just accept the new reality and aren’t strong enough or cynical enough to question it.

Contacts of contacts do not need to isolate.
Ronan Glynn clearly drew this as a stick men drawing at the start of the pandemic, but nearly 9 months on, people still can’t grasp it.

Won’t happen here. Our CMO is a fan of his work being investigated so no police would be required

Here you go @tazdedub

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The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

On October 4, 2020, this declaration was authored and signed in Great Barrington, United States, by:

Dr. Martin Kulldorff , professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta , professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya , professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.

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Bastard. :slight_smile:

Imagine what fucked up stuff Simon Harris is hiding

What are you suggesting?

A load of drafts of fake hand written children’s letters

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He’s as mad as that cunt @caoimhaoin ever was.

Hes a weirdo and I don’t know if its ainme weird or fritzel weird.

In short, his inane waffling is pointless?

People talking about “saving christmas”. Do you actually think for a second that people aren’t going to go home for Christmas Dinner, just to appease the Archbishop?

Simon Harris says he doesn’t want people calling around “for a few cans” at the weekend.

These lads really hate the auld drink.

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