Rapid blood tests. Bleedin rapid.
Iām not trying to shutdown anything. Iām giving my opinion on why it isnāt a viable strategy for supression, long term
Iāve already said that those would be benefits of a mass testing strategy
What viable strategies have we?
Lockdowns are great, arenāt they?
Itās the most progressive strategy Iāve seen yet so why not give it a go?
youāre picking the countries that suit your narrative.
What advantages have we over Sweden, the UK, Spain, France, Italy, Belgium etc that we have done a better job than, if you think deaths per 100k is doing a ābetter jobā
Let me just be clear that I think per country comparisons are absolutely pointless by the way
Curse the day that āsuit your narrativeā became a phrase on tfk. Itās engrained in some lads psyche now.
Look, you blamed some intrinsic weaknesses on our poor response. I pointed to a number of countries that had greater weaknesses in their systems by far, but did better than us.
The point is that your excuses for why weāve done badly are no excuses.
Why canāt you just admit weāve done a shit job and made a lot of mistakes?
Sweden and the UK didnāt lock down. Italy and Spain were disastrously overwhelmed at the beginning of the crisis. France and Belgium only slightly further behind.
We did lock down, our health system wasnāt overwhelmed. Those are major points of difference.
Why canāt you just admit weāve done a shit job and made a lot of mistakes?
I have, multiple times. Why canāt you accept weāve done some things well. Thereās balance in all things
That could still happen now with positive people. But if they tested positive most people would behave decently. People who donāt would be fucked into prison.
What viable strategies have we?
Lockdowns are great, arenāt they?
Itās the most progressive strategy Iāve seen yet so why not give it a go?
What viable strategies are there? I havenāt seen one that is a fit for Ireland
lockdowns are fucking terrible
because testing the entire population doesnāt necessarily mean you will be future proof from further restrictions/lockdowns. Itās a huge gamble and I donāt see the upside
Lock millions of people inside their houses for months if not years on end. Why didnāt the experts think of that?
Youāve made excuses for why weāve done badly, repeatedly. Iāve shown those excuses donāt stand up.
I think the only thing we did well was the PUP. Up to the point they cut it for loads of people and had to reverse those decisions subsequently. I donāt think weāve managed any other aspect well.
Every time I point out what weāre not doing well or what other countries do better you try to contradict it. Itās strange.
thatās hyperbole @Tank and disingenuous. Nobody is locked inside their home. They are restricting movement and contacts. You should know this, youāre not long back from a nice holiday. We are living in a time of a pandemic.
The severity of restrictions on movement and contact will vary based on the incidence of the virus.
Iāve given reasons for why weāve done badly. They arenāt excuses.
Comparing countries, during the pandemic is pointless mate.
I was out in the car there, News at One all about the pending lockdown, itās dark and it pissing rain and then Liveline comes on and treats us to an hour about suicide. Could it get any bleaker.
What viable strategies are there? I havenāt seen one that is a fit for Ireland
lockdowns are fucking terrible
How is it a huge gamble? What are the consequences of it?
you spend billions testing 5 million people. one month later the incidence is high again and youāve to introduce restrictions. you pay double penalty
We spend billions implementing lockdowns after lockdowns anyway.
How is it a gamble in line with the other strategies pursued which cost billions?
You could have been listening to Ray DāArcy
I just said it isnāt a guarantee against future lockdowns. I donāt know what you arenāt getting here bud. You could spend billions, on top of the other billions for an experiment, that isnāt controlled (unless you lockdown the entire country in parallel with the testing/processing etc)
I was out in the car there, News at One all about the pending lockdown, itās dark and it pissing rain and then Liveline comes on and treats us to an hour about suicide. Could it get any bleaker.
George Lee on the six one news later.
I just said it isnāt a guarantee against future lockdowns. I donāt know what you arenāt getting here bud. You could spend billions, on top of the other billions for an experiment, that isnāt controlled (unless you lockdown the entire country in parallel with the testing/processing etc)
It isnāt a guarantee but neither are any of the other strategies being pursued. The upshot of that strategy is it genuinely could form some part of a progressive solution. Wasting billions is nowhere near a valid excuse when you look at the money being pumped into combating Covid at present.
I was out in the car there, News at One all about the pending lockdown, itās dark and it pissing rain and then Liveline comes on and treats us to an hour about suicide. Could it get any bleaker.
Dublin are on course for 6 in a row.
all we can do is watch with anticipation mate, lets see if if Slovakia can implement it and if the results are worthwhile