Coronavirus thread - 19/10/2020 - The Day Ireland Died

Iā€™d argue that comparison with the flu is moot.
We only really know if people get ā€œthe fluā€ from their personal symptoms, so itā€™s important to acknowledge that there may be a 98% silent flu rate, ie folk who have it, but are asymptomatic, we donā€™t really know.
We are taking the covid rates from actual testing, so comparing the two is like comparing an apple and a ford fiesta.
Having said that, I think that it may well be that for most folk, covid is actually a much milder illness than flu, which is debilitating when you get it, but at the severe end, covid is much worse by and large

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Time will tell.

We just donā€™t know enough about Covid yet. So that question will be answered down the line, I think itā€™s impossible to say with confidence one way or another.

We also donā€™t know how many people have silent Covid.

We have a decent idea that for the vast majority covid is a very minor illness. We need to throw into the mix that we have no idea whether it can be debilitating or fatal a second time though.
My honest opinion is that as soon as any kind of vaccine can be used as a fig leaf, covid will be largely ignored by the politicians and society in general as an inconvenience to society in general rather than a catastrophe.

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Ah yeah but when things open up on the 1st of December it is going to be like Soddam and Gomorrah.

If everybody is depressed and itā€™s going to stay that way indefinitely, then has Bressie lost his unique selling point?

Iā€™m looking for lockdown positives here and I donā€™t mean test results.

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We donā€™t but do we want to waste what we have left of our lives sitting on our hands waiting for a bunch of overrated eggheads to contradict each other for decades until they come to a common conclusion.

Fuck science.

Teacher unions Sabre rattling this morning about not going back after mid term break.

They really cannot taste the room. Thatā€™s not Covid.

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There are far far more jobs still open in this lockdown than the first one.
The problem appears to me to be the unfairness of it all with a minority of people, mostly low paid, carrying the financial can for the whole country through absolutely no fault of theirs .
Workers in hairdressers, clothes shops, gyms, pubs, restaurants and a few more places. Surely these people should be on full pay and business owners getting rent, mortgage and interest freezes with the rest of the country paying a temporary 2pc solidarity tax for 6 weeks to pay for them?? Thereā€™d be relatively little devastation then. Is Paul Murphy or any of the loony left even calling for anything like this?
I think it would be the ideal solution as would either bring everyone together or flush out the ones who support lockdown as they are personally losing nothing.

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Stop buying nutella ye cunts. The shops are still open

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Was there ever any outbreak linked to a hair dressers? Very unfair on them, I got my hair cut last week as I knew this was coming and the place had gone to great lengths to ensure it was as safe as possible

Wasnā€™t the Iraqi fella in Sligo a barber?

I donā€™t believe any cases were linked to the barber shop.
They were linked his brother and family. The brother who came home, went for a big family meal, then self isolated for 2 weeks.

The schools are an interesting one. Reports are that virus is not being transmitted there. Instead the large number of young people getting it are picking it up at home. I think this is disingenuous in the extreme. We are where we are now because govt and NPHET are terrified that there will be people rioting outside Crumlin, Vincents etc as their loved one wont be able to access medical treatment. Blame squarely lies on both for not doing anything to address this. Secondly they know people will lose their minds and riot if their kids are out of school and at home all the time. HSE refined the rules of a close contact now to being without a mask for 15 mins during lunch as opposed to being within 1M in the classroom with a mask. They are making it up as they go along and it goes without saying its all a fudge.

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From midnight 30th September to midnight 17th October.

There have been 51 deaths notified.

42 of these had underlying health conditions.

1 was aged between 25-34
1 was aged between 45-54
5 were aged between 55-64
8 were aged between 65-74
18 were aged between 85-84
18 were aged 85+

Is the purpose of the lockdown to protect the schools and keep them open or to protect ā€œthe Christmasā€?

If the schools were shut it would affect the higher ups in HSE lives so theyā€™ve to be kept open at all costs

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Where is that from?

Tubs was saying this morning that the Toy Show is on 27 November. Thatā€™s right at the end of the 6 week lockdown. A big positive for everyone to work towards.

anyone who thinks this is a six week lockdown needs their head examined, 3 months minimum

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4 weeks minimum in fact.