Thatâs not much of an answer to a considered point. MHQ certainly makes sense. You might not like it but there absolutely is logic and sense behind it.
The most important thing in terms of opening up society is opening up your internal economy - not overseas travel. MHQ is designed to help in achieving that aim.
Has Hot Lips said that NPHET is very concerned about the Indian variant yet?
Sounds to me like things are on a knife edge.
The next two weeks could be crucial.
If the Covid doesnât get ya, the killer fungus will.
What the fuck will be next, fucking red fungus or something.
It isnât. MHQ as we operate it is a stupid nonsensical worthless and heartless initiative. I set out what I saw wrong with it in a post replying to you there yesterday or the day before but you didnât reply.
Our system of MHQ is indefensible in my view, itâs one of the most worthless mean and embarrassing things an Irish government has done.
Fire up your previous response again so.
Saying something is âheartlessâ is not an argument. If youâre serious about fighting a pandemic and opening society safely, the nature of good policy is that yes, it will require very difficult sacrifices on the part of some people. I was a victim of this myself because I could not see my dying father for 22 days while he was in hospital - but I accepted that I could not because it was for the greater good.
Again I ask you, what would the benefits of allowing a wide spread of B.1.617.2 be for Ireland?
Oh come off it would you.
Itâs a serious question. What would the benefits be?
It wasnât mate
You are saying all the Jews killed in concentration camps by Nazis could have just saved themselves by not going to synagogues ?
and weâre off!
Over 10% of the population born abroad
Millions within the Irish Diaspora
Hundreds of thousands employed in tourism and aviation, and their families
It goes beyond a small minority then. All when you have an open border and different form of trading.
The U.K. remain off the MHQ and will continue to. Even the clowns in NPHET and the DoH saw the impact on trade of a brief pause to travel over Christmas.
Sadly many were grabbed by their cousins down in Australia having a BBQ and a pint and wonât admit they were wrong. You see the various statements of âI support MHQ but donât support Xâ when each case comes up but you fundamentally donât support MHQ if you donât believe in it being implemented like in Australia and New Zealand. Both of those countries decided to become hermit states that threw out fundamental citizens rights, but are prepared to eat the shame of things like locking citizens out of their country, unlike Ireland.
Of course it was. If pre-Covid visiting rules had been allowed, that means I might have visited the hospital 44 times in those 22 days. I could have had Covid and brought more of into the hospital, infecting people inside the hospital, or I could have picked it up in the hospital and spread it to people outside the hospital, who in turn could have passed it on to others, and so on.
And that goes for the relatives of everybody else who was an in-patient in the hospital too.
Saying that it wasnât for the greater good is demonstrably wrong.
Thereâs a bit of a difference between seeing him 0 times and seeing him 44 times
Any chance you could write in English next time?
I really donât think thatâs a helpful contribution to a bereaved person.
ISAG and the cretins in groups like WeCanBeZero Cork will be devastated.
Huh? Youâre making the same point in a more elaborate way
When you post in this sort of argument-free manner the only person youâre making a fool of is yourself.
Itâs not a serious question. And I try not to be one to engage in silly and pointless arguments. I also think that your experience of the pandemic has been an awful lot worse than many other peopleâs and I really sympathise with you. As you know I have some shared experience and I canât imagine how difficult the time has been for your family. I donât think thereâs any value in going around the houses on the merits of MHQ, I set out my problems with our system already, if you want to youâll find it youâll have a notification of my reply. I do think a version of it could be useful, for people who test positive on arrival for example, but our system is just awful and wrong, and it was brought in for the wrong reasons.