You do realise that the same thing youâre saying was said throughout the Autumn by people denying the possibility of a second wave? David Quinn barely went a few hours without gaslighting that people were worrying about nothing. How did that work out?
I donât know exactly how this will work out but anybody who dismisses a rise in cases and a rise in hospitalisations like is frequently done here and elsewhere online is not a good faith commenter.
If there is a rise in hospitalisations due to Covid of vaccinated people we can get worried. Until then itâs scare mongering. The vaccine ends this as an issue based on all available evidence. Weâll soon have Vaccine 2.0 and theyâll be even more effective.
Hopefully now public health will focus on the epidemic of obesity. 1m hospitalizations in England in a year is staggering.
Do you have a source for the rise in hospitalisations? Weâre in a different position now than weâre we were last Autumn with the vaccines so I donât think the comparison is valid
Ah shure with the likes of you everything is âscaremongeringâ. Reasonable people learned very quickly in this pandemic to dismiss those who carp about âscaremongeringâ. Youâre part of a large cohort of people who have retreated into a fantasy world where youâd always much rather hear a reassuring lie than an inconvenient truth. Itâs a shocking indictment of how right wing politics and its associated social media has degenerated public debate. Ironically this fantasy world is permeated by a deep sense of fear more than anything.
Itâs not over yet, mate. Vaccines will ultimately be the primary tool which ends this thing but itâll be a while before that happens because this is a world problem and weâre going to be going around with significant numbers of people unvaccinated for a good while yet. You donât do nuance. Itâs too complicating and not certain enough for you.
People also said âlook at the graphâ last July. Didnât work out very well, did it.
The vaccines end Covid. A vaccine for
Malaria may come out of this which would truly be a gamechanger for all those people in Africa and Asia you now care about. In fact once over 50s are vaccinated the vaccines for Covid should go to those 3rd world countries.
Anyway youâll always be right in your own head and Iâll leave it there.
Vaccines will ultimately end Covid as a major threat. How many people are vaccinated right now?
There are nearly 8 billion people in the world. That means we likely need to be hitting 14/15 billion doses worldwide to properly end this thing as a threat, and thatâs without the boosters which will likely be needed.
If we were serious about beating the pandemic, we absolutely should have been. Part of the problem is the people who donât do nuance where itâs needed also do false nuance where you shouldnât.
Thatâs a completely contradictory position. Saying we should do what new Zealand do is just silly. You want nuance and no nuance, as and where it suits your argument.