See on your way home from work today - buy a mirror.
Iâm not intolerant.
I operate a very open mind on vaccines. I think people should get them if they want, I think itâs the smart thing to do if youâre elderly, have an underlying health condition or are obese.
If youâre u40, fit and healthy and have no underlying health conditions, I fail to see the upside in getting one.
I donât want to force my view on anyone, I wish that people would be allowed to make informed decisions and have that respected.
You are the other hand are one of those zealots who wants to shame, coerce and ostracise those who hold a different viewpoint and are perfectly willing to misrepresent and label people who hold an opposing viewpoint.
Great news. The local school has been decimated numberswise of late. Few cases spread over the school and half the kids are close contacts. Weâve had our pair out most of the week.
Sounds awful, how many were killed?
A few unfortunately. Mainly due to parents trying have them home again for 10 days while trying to work.
I wouldnât disagree. Some explanation for the delay should be forthcoming.
Would you say itâs fairly typical?
In our school they told the unvaccinated kids to fuck off home for ten days and continued classes with the vaccinated elite.
What age are they vaccinating kids from? Its 12 up here. Mine are primary school
Off you go again. Ranting and raving. Calm down and stop mislabelling people who disagree with you.
The upside in getting vaccinated for healthy, fit, u40 people is a societal one, mostly. As you are well aware there have been cases of people in that category getting very ill and dying. In general, those people will not suffer greatly if they contract Covid but the advantage is to their community. Vaccination lessens any illness and also reduces the transmissability so vaccination is the reponsible, thing to do IF you have any respect for your fellow human beings. Something I fear you severely lack.
The two ladies who died recently, mother and daughter, were both domicillary care workers. That is, they were delivering care to mostly elderly, vulnerable, people in their homes. I am of the opinion that it would have been the responsible thing for them to do to be vaccinated. Unfortunately they werenât.
I think that this week is the deadline for care workers to be mandatorially vaccinated in England. If they refuse without medical exemption they lose their jobs. Thatâs tough but I think the right course of action.
I simply donât know the answer to that. Do you?
12 up
Iâd say youâve a fair idea
Really? Why would you think that?
But hereâs a thing. It seems to me that the stories reported of unvaccinated people dying are often being brought to the media by relatives and friends of those who died.
Iâd suspect that if people were dying as a result of vaccination their relatives and friends would be taking the story to the press. There doesnât seem to be those revelations. I may of course be wrong in this and have just missed the plethora of such stories or maybe the media are suppressing these stories. I donât believe in the suppression so Iâm left with either Iâve missed these stories or they donât exist.
Thatâs funny. You were happy enough for them to care for the sick and infirm all the way through the pandemic without a vaccine, but now youâve decided to sack them if they make a decision you donât like.
I donât think there are a 'plethora of such stories, but I think youâd be very naive to think the media, department of health etc are reporting deaths or side effects to the same extent as theyâre reporting deaths loosely associated with covid.
Itâs not the fact that I donât like the decision. I think I explained the reasons above. But if you prefer to go down the ad hominem route, fill your boots.
I think you must have realised by now that your opposition to just about any measure proposed by people who have worked in this field in favour of crackpot\quackery is simply wrong.
I referenced mandatory vaccination for care workers above saying it was being introduced in England. I may have got that wrong and confused with this
Vaccination for care workers in England IS mandatory