You can âtell meâ as many times as you like. You can howl at the moon for all I care. It doesnât change the epidemiological facts. It doesnât change the fact that there was a proven right way and a proven wrong way to deal with the pandemic, and most of the world broadly chose the wrong way.
You can repeat this as often as you like and youâll still be wrong. We donât live in a lab pal.
Sound. I will. No we donât live in a lab. Which is why Iâve never been in favour of lab solutions or fantastical ones pulled out of yer arse which are popular with dunderheads on a forum, like you have, but real world ones.
The real world where no EU country pursued this policy because itâs impossible?
The real world.
Not the fantasy world where the virus respects EU borders.
The real world where no country with a land border, no country on our continent, pursued this policy?
The virus never cared about your 2019 normality delusions. It still doesnât. It is what it is. You either dealt with the reality of what it is, or you paid the penalty.
But hey, Mark Paul sounded as if he knew what he was talking about.
Youâre getting there. The reality of the world we live in made, makes, zero covid impossible.
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Zero Covid was emphatically the epidemiolgically correct choice.
And in a pandemic of this seriousness, there is no other choice.
Yet again, repeating it and nauseum wonât make it true. Itâs incompatible with the real world. It was rejected by every EU country, NPHET, and the WHO. Itâs a pity everyone qualified to be in a position of powe and all the experts advising them rejected your policy.
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I think it says a lot about your attitude to this pandemic that the people you are most angry with are the people who were emphatically epidemiologically correct.
As has been said many times by smart people, selfishness, greed and a non-adult approach to governance will prolong this pandemic much longer than necessary.
A non-adult approach you have been in favour of all along.
Selectively picking out the tiny subsection of out of sync âexpertsâ that agree with your view is the kind of craic right wing gobshites do. The vast majority of experts reject what youâre advocating as impossible. Zero covid as a possibility in this part of the world has been entirely debunked and rejected.
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Except it was entirely possible. The real world proved it. And it was only human decisions that deemed otherwise.
Again, I return to your anger over this reality being pointed out and I return to where you spewed your anger.
Not at the let it rip crowd, or the disinformation merchants, or the demagogues. But at the people who pointed out epidemiological reality, also known as reality, and they didnât even have to be Zero Covid advocates. Anybody who threatened the magical thinking of a fantastical 2019 reality in 2020 or 2021.
Pints, pints, pints, holidays, holidays, holidays. Death, death, death.
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Wrong. The opposite of reality.
Zero covid advocates are disinformation merchants.
OK Tossy.
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Will we be back in lockdown by October do you think ?
The resignation was nothing to do with Covid. Itâs opportunistic mischaracterisation to suggest otherwise.
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There is too many unknowns with respect to variants and vaccine effectiveness to be certain about anything. I would not bet against it though.
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More likely to see Nphet on stage at EP
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I canât predict that, it depends on political decisions. My current view is that it is unlikely we will go back to Level 5 in the near future but some restrictions may happen at some point sooner or later. The business lobbies are undoubtedly winning the battle v public health. It depends how bad the surge of cases and deaths gets.
NI has had the worst case rates in the world over the last week or two. It is difficult to see how that does not spread down here in the near future.
Longer term it depends on how much vaccine immunity wanes and whether a new variant emerges and how much seasonality may prove to be a factor if any. It also may depend on what if any non-pharmaceutical interventions we use as a society. Currently the likely answer appears to be: not much.
I expect this will be a very confusing, uncertain and frustrating winter, which will likely not have the mass death of last winter, but a relentless lower level chug chug of death and illness.
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