That was meant to be 20-30k.
Everything Iâve heard about that department suggests it is a complete shit show.
In the words of Arsene Wenger, âEveryone thinks they have the prettiest wife at homeâŚâ
My solution would be to trust the lads at the border. If they say is a BS claim, send them back. There is NO reason why a genuine asylum seeker should arrive here from a fellow EU country. If youâre Albanian or Georgian, and youâve made it to Spain or France, claim asylum there.
Right now, most asylum seekers (at Dublin airport anyway) claim asylum after trying to get by on a fake passport or ID card. They promptly leave the airport (cos they canât be arrested or detained) and disappear into the black economy without a trace. Itâs a system absolutely tailored to people traffickers, pimps etc.
We urgently need to start sending asylum seekers who have come from a safe country back there. Itâs a pointless waste of effort otherwise and it diverts resources from those actually fleeing war, persecution etc.
They might have family here, to give just one reason.
If they have a legal family member here they can apply for family reunification
The cynic sees this as a honey pot for the legal
DOJ is a complete shitshow as evidenced by the charleton tribunal and various other scandals. in respect of asylum the amount of JRs generated by justice is mind boggling and if they even followed the simplest of procedures the JRs wouldnât have happened, its getting a tiny bit better
it is, but theyre not as big wankers as DFAT, that crowd are really up their own holes
Iâll knock together an answer on this over the morning
Agree on all of the above.
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Lock the thread. Quick.
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Probably off topic but this is one thing that annoys the fuck out of me in relation to Irish people talking about immigration into this country.
We probably wouldnât exist as a nation today without being able to emigrate down the ages - legally or illegally. And for Irish people to turn around and object to immigration here is a joke.
For me itâs quite straightforward.
I had words with an English guy recently who was giving it loads about Brexit being good as it stopped all the [insert racist term here] from entering the country. I pointed out to him that he is the son of two Irish parents. He looked at me blankly.
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Spot on.
Is this a competition?
Iâm going first.
Daegos?
in fantasy world, so never going to happen
- all claims for asylum, PTR and SP to be completed within a maximum of 6 months, divert staff from other areas to facilitate this
- all appeals to be dealt with within a further 3 months.
- Wasted costs orders to be handed out with regularity in the JR list.
- where a civil servant has deviated significantly from standard procedures the costs of the JR should be fixed against them and they should face disciplinary procedures as well.
- change the law so that a person seeking asylum is obliged to claim it at the port of entry into the state. this will get rid of a lot of the Dublin 3 ones who get the ferry from Scotland and travel down on the bus from Belfast.
- start to challenge media; any person who has been in DP for over 18 months has gotten at least one decision, it is under appeal or JR. the media is misleading people when they say that people havenât gotten a decision after 18 months. then thereâs also the issue for the media with S26 of the IP act in revealing the names of persons engaged in the asylum process. its there to protect those seeking to avail of asylum from retribution from their former countries.
- As facilities go, DP is nowhere near as bad as "facilities " in spain, Italy, Greece and some of the Balkan states.
- execute all outstanding deportation orders.
- set up an independent medical examiners office to assess torture and PTSD.; spirasi has too much skin in the game.
- people who return to their countries for holidays are clearlyb no longer in fear. they should be repatriated.
those are just a few.
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The media is not the problem here and even if the above is true, which I highly doubt, 18 months is still an inhumane amount of time to be holding people in limbo like this.
I think you touched on the real issues with point 4, systematic state drones conducting their inherent prejudice with impunity
the media is part of the problem and not all of the problem is with âsystematic state dronesâ. this is a complex affair
With regard to point 4, there definitely should be some accountability on the part of the civil servant. Iâm not sure about having costs awarded against the individual but there definitely should be underperformance or disciplinary measures taken.
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Media is partially the problem. The reporting on this issue is always incredibly one sided and never mentions the enormous amounts of bs claims that are being made, or the lengths so many of the claimants go to frustrate the system