Ya just try and do something you enjoy anyway.
I got myself into an awful mess at 19/20 as many of my friends new exactly what they wanted to do and I’d no idea. By 23/24 they were working in jobs they hated and many left them.
Enjoy your 20s is the advice I’d give anybody. You’ve fuck all responsibilities and it’s wonderful.
Heres the thing if they are struggling for the cost lr want to avoid debt. Many large employers have schemes for back to education. Often it is tied with a certain level of service post qualification or you will pay the balance. There is a lot to be said for serving a trade and going back part time for a year or 2 while working. Also getting a job in a factory, wkth the experience of actually doing the do work, the conpany will pull them in for bigger roles and push them to do these qualification to progress. Some of ghe best people i have worked with went this route and are more valuable to the company than a clown straight out of college. When this person moves up they are rewarded more and have a greater understanding of work also
The one bit of advice I would give @flattythehurdler ‘s lad is think about doing something that will involve helping people. It’s a noble thing to do and I would imagine extremely satisfying.
This reads as a bizarre pop at people who went teaching. Not for everyone but savage job satisfaction and genuinely making a difference in the lives of others. Lots to admire there.
you’d need an extra Mickey
3 different bank accounts
Nothing wrong with degrees.
It’s the lads who are choking up the system, taking up much needed housing spaces etc either due to the parents pushing them or just looking to join the friends socialising.
I know of people who’ve dropped out of numerous courses and then when they finally admitted defeat on the Academic train they felt entry level apprenticeships were beneath them due to entry level pay.
It’s all sort of fucked up.
And worse, we recently had colleges looking for more public money to run these full to the brim colleges.
Colleges running bs courses without any real job prospects doesnt help. Just something for people who havent a clue and as you said get the state to fund it
@flattythehurdler you could do worse than shoehorn him into the masters course that covers both global pandemics and art of war / Russian history that a lot of lads here seem to have done…
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Genuinely didn’t mean it that way. Have the height of respect for teachers and that imaginary life would be a life well lived too. My point was I personally would prefer when I’m retired to have lived a varied life like corkies than one that society would deem successful like the local school principal. I know which one would have the more interesting stories or advice to give to grandchildren too.
@flattythehurdler I don’t have much more to add to what has already been said here. But one thing I’d advise any young lad is to be flexible and I don’t mean that in a flippant way. Be ready to dive in and do whatever to earn a few pound to keep things ticking over.
When I finished my arts degree I knew I wanted to be a teacher but I was fed up with not earning a cent. So I worked a retail job to try and tide me over and sure that almost lasted 8 years, until I eventually got my shit together. No amount of talking to or telling me what was the right thing for me, was ever going to convince me. I had to do my own thing. And I’d agree with @Arthur it’s better for me now to have had a different life coming into teaching than perhaps if I had of dived in post degree. But it’s hugely satisfying and enriching.
Once you see the paycheck coming in every week it is harder and harder to contemplate going back to study, especially when the bills start coming in, such as cars, insurance, tax, petrol, also the social life and not to mention the biggest expense - relationships. But the door is always open nowadays, online courses and night courses. So there is plenty of time and options for everyone.
I don’t know anything about your young lad, but best wishes to him. He will figure it out. Just guide him if he gives an indication of something that he would like to do. You can only do your best.
I’m all for everyone letting their kids arse around for a few years subject to one key condition - I don’t want to see any of them moaning in the Irish Times about buying a house. “I’m a vintage light switch repairer and I’ve found myself locked out of the housing market”. Do me a favour.
Doing something enjoyable and rewarding is wonderful but sometimes you need to do what’s practical because it pays the bills. And kids need to know that that’s ok.
Life is not a movie and is pretty mundane for most.
(Cue loads of a abuse about being a boring excel jockey).
Not a fan of the sentiment of that post but gave it a like for the vintage light switch repairer quip
In the current climate lads & lassies need to be toughened up.
Where can one find said robot?
But one day, if you bide your time and keep your faith, you could become a moderator for an obscure internet forum of literally dozens of posters?
Whatever he does just make sure he doesn’t stay somewhere if he has the Sunday dread.
Dread about work the next day. Nothing worse. If the thought of work on Monday ruins your Sunday get the fuck out.
About 20 years ago, I confided in @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy that I hated my work place at the time. The dread started on the Friday night it was that bad. Couldn’t sleep at night. The @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy told me that sleep was the most important thing ever and to make changes.
I left the job about 6 weeks later.
A good mate.
Now he’d probably tell me to get a bike and start bycycling to work, leave the grass grow wild and pay some cunt to plant trees for me every month!
Yes, get a bike if that happens again
That’s a good friend