[quote=“Bandage, post: 836588, member: 9”]Apparently the Mayo County Council Chairman, John Malley*, said in his speech at the team homecoming last night “America got Bin Laden. Mayo will get Sam Maguire.”
These people are utter simpletons.[/quote]
Indeed. There is no country called “America”.
there is no hype with Dublin pal…gentleman Jim played a blinder all year and used sunday to play down the expectations for next year with what was a truly horrendous performance…shrewd, shrewd man…and like any true dub he has left the culchies seething with a few comments…
heffo would be proud of him…the Jacks are back …big time…
thanks pal…i got my big pay out on sunday…what better way than having everything roll onto the dubs…
He was a disgrace. He changed the way he reffed the tackle amongst other things. He screwed Dublin early in and screwed Mayo in 2nd half. It was as embarrassing a performance as Mrty Duffy in 09.
He started giving Dubs decisions when tired.
Both finals this year have had incredible pace and intensity. The referees are not able to stay up with it. It’s hard to blame them. Time for 2 refs.
funny how the likes of Gman & TAN keep going on about how amazing it is that the Dublin and Mayo fans could mingle togetherwithout segregation. I honestly cant see how in any way this is unique or amazing
anyone care to tell me
[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 836705, member: 80”]funny how the likes of Gman & TAN keep going on about how amazing it is that the Dublin and Mayo fans could mingle togetherwithout segregation. I honestly cant see how in any way this is unique or amazing
anyone care to tell me[/quote]
I agree mate. also funny why you mention me here, but I’m sure you’ll find plenty of examples of where I or anyone else for that matter have said it, because I think its gone past the stage where anyone gives a shit anymore that fans are able to mingle without problems. it should go without question that fans can just mingle at games and shouldnt be held up as some sort of triumph.
Fairly interesting article by Darragh O’Se in the Irish Times today. I agree with Darragh, @Mac[/USER] and @[USER=1]Rocko[/USER] and disagree with @[USER=112]Gman[/USER] and @[USER=273]caoimhaoin regarding Cluxton and his kick-outs. I thought Cluxton was excellent on Sunday and his skill and technique was brilliant to consistently hit men on the move.
However, I disagree with Darragh about McQuillan. Like @caoimhaoin, Darragh thinks he was harsh on Dublin in the first half before doing an about turn after the break. I thought he was poor for Dublin throughout the game. Darragh, of course, takes the opportunity to imply that he cost Kerry the final in 2011 too.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 836698, member: 273”]He was a disgrace. He changed the way he reffed the tackle amongst other things. He screwed Dublin early in and screwed Mayo in 2nd half. It was as embarrassing a performance as Mrty Duffy in 09.
He started giving Dubs decisions when tired.
Both finals this year have had incredible pace and intensity. The referees are not able to stay up with it. It’s hard to blame them. Time for 2 refs.[/quote]
in fairness to referees if you have a manager like Horan in the media after every game saying they have worked really hard on doing the proper tackling in training and donie buckley is showing them the proper way, it straight away puts pressure on the ref not to give free against them…Horan spent all year sending messages via the media…Dublin couldn’t buy a free in first half on sunday…
No it doesn’t.
[quote=“Bandage, post: 836725, member: 9”]Fairly interesting article by Darragh O’Se in the Irish Times today. I agree with Darragh, @Mac[/USER] and @[USER=1]Rocko[/USER] and disagree with @[USER=112]Gman[/USER] and @[USER=273]caoimhaoin regarding Cluxton and his kick-outs. I thought Cluxton was excellent on Sunday and his skill and technique was brilliant to consistently hit men on the move.
However, I disagree with Darragh about McQuillan. Like @caoimhaoin, Darragh thinks he was harsh on Dublin in the first half before doing an about turn after the break. I thought he was poor for Dublin throughout the game. Darragh, of course, takes the opportunity to imply that he cost Kerry the final in 2011 too.[/quote]
Jesus bandage, you must be a shit keeper if you think Cluxton was that good. He was nervous and made a hash of a few things. His kicks were easy, but he did them well.
Anyone who has ever been involved in a kickout strategy knows it’s the intelligent movement of the players that creates the opportunity for short kicks working well.
Now in the past he was pinging unbelievable balls into guys hands, but Sunday was all about Dublin defenders vacating areas of the field and leaving space. It was a throw back to what Cluxton used to do and Cork perfected. Then Cluxton brought it to a whole new level with daring accuracy over past 2-3 seasons. Sunday was a throw back and it threw Mayo. They fell hook, line and sinker for it. Appalling management both in and off the field.
It was kickout strategy 2006.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 836750, member: 273”]Jesus bandage, you must be a shit keeper if you think Cluxton was that good. He was nervous and made a hash of a few things. His kicks were easy, but he did them well.
Anyone who has ever been involved in a kickout strategy knows it’s the intelligent movement of the players that creates the opportunity for short kicks working well.
Now in the past he was pinging unbelievable balls into guys hands, but Sunday was all about Dublin defenders vacating areas of the field and leaving space. It was a throw back to what Cluxton used to do and Cork perfected. Then Cluxton brought it to a whole new level with daring accuracy over past 2-3 seasons. Sunday was a throw back and it threw Mayo. They fell hook, line and sinker for it. Appalling management both in and off the field.
It was kickout strategy 2006.[/quote]
Agree on Mayo’s appalling management of the kick outs, agree that the movement by the Dublin players was critical but disagree that Cluxton’s role was easy. It was immense, landing the ball such that players could take it on at speed.
There isn’t a rating for Agree x 2 and Disagree x 1.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 836750, member: 273”]Jesus bandage, you must be a shit keeper if you think Cluxton was that good. He was nervous and made a hash of a few things. His kicks were easy, but he did them well.
Anyone who has ever been involved in a kickout strategy knows it’s the intelligent movement of the players that creates the opportunity for short kicks working well.
Now in the past he was pinging unbelievable balls into guys hands, but Sunday was all about Dublin defenders vacating areas of the field and leaving space. It was a throw back to what Cluxton used to do and Cork perfected. Then Cluxton brought it to a whole new level with daring accuracy over past 2-3 seasons. Sunday was a throw back and it threw Mayo. They fell hook, line and sinker for it. Appalling management both in and off the field.
It was kickout strategy 2006.[/quote]
Nah, you’re completely underestimating his skill to put the ball on a six pence into an area where a player was arriving at pace and able to take the ball into his chest. The timing, accuracy and trajectory was by and large perfect.
I acknowledge that the system itself wasn’t novel - pack together in one small segment of the field to leave space for one or two particular players to sprint into. But the execution of it was absolutely superb by Cluxton.
It’s not at all a basic and easy skill to hit 60 yard passes right on the money given the other variables mentioned above. Dublin won all his kick-outs in the second half - it was great stuff.
Cluxton would be my player of the year ahead of McAuley actually.
[quote=“Bandage, post: 836755, member: 9”]Nah, you’re completely underestimating his skill to put the ball on a six pence into an area where a player was arriving at pace and able to take the ball into his chest. The timing, accuracy and trajectory was by and large perfect.
I acknowledge that the system itself wasn’t novel - pack together in one small segment of the field to leave space for one or two particular players to sprint into. But the execution of it was absolutely superb by Cluxton.
It’s not at all a basic and easy skill to hit 60 yard passes right on the money given the other variables mentioned above. Dublin won all his kick-outs in the second half - it was great stuff.
Cluxton would be my player of the year ahead of McAuley actually.[/quote]
He was floating 25-40 balls into space Bando. It’s really easy. He was not under any pressure.
The credit I would give is for looking back and assessing what worked before and the tactics used. It was smart. It’s execution was the easy part.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 836761, member: 273”]He was floating 25-40 balls into space Bando. It’s really easy. He was not under any pressure.
The credit I would give is for looking back and assessing what worked before and the tactics used. It was smart. It’s execution was the easy part.[/quote]
that was my point too. Its much easier to kick a ball in a general direction for 50m or so and let a player to run onto it. The player adjusts his run as the ball is in flight to take it on the run. I’m not wanting to discredit Cluxton or anything, just that I think he is getting over the top praise for what was effectively a team plan move that wasnt all that hard to make effective. I think the managemtn deserve a lot of the credit, and the outfield players who were either creating the space or making the runs
I daresay Cluxton was heavily involved in the tactics as well.
In general goalkeeping he had a poor day though
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 836769, member: 273”]I daresay Cluxton was heavily involved in the tactics as well.
In general goalkeeping he had a poor day though[/quote]
+1
Very poor for the goal and hardly made a save all year
nearly had an almighty clanger too
kicking the ball into space is pretty easy too-
you can see why he didnt make it in the LOI
[quote=“The Wild Colonial Bhoy, post: 836770, member: 80”]+1
Very poor for the goal and hardly made a save all year
nearly had an almighty clanger too
kicking the ball into space is pretty easy too-
you can see why he didnt make it in the LOI[/quote]
That’s it. We’re enemies now.
[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 836769, member: 273”]I daresay Cluxton was heavily involved in the tactics as well.
In general goalkeeping he had a poor day though[/quote]
would agree with the first bit, he definitely would have a role in the tactics of it.
disagree with the second though. I certainly wouldnt have said he had a poor day at all.
mate?
