Energy Crisis

Not viable for new houses at current prices either. I know one lad who fucked off on holidays for a month when he heard the cold snap was approaching, rather than heat the house.

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Lads have been sold a pup. Councils are also putting these into council houses with no thought as to how a pensioner on a fixed income will actually pay the bills.

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A heating system that doesn’t work when it’s cold is not very useful

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These pumps should all be ground based.

Elec and gas?

Mine elec only for the 2 months with the Xmas lights going like Billyo was 318 euro… Less 200 from pascal and less 50 from elec Ireland I paid 68 quid

I have Oil ch… Prob used 200 quid of oil over the 2 months

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Me man the heat pump specialist from Cork, his answer to everything was it can’t have been installed properly, get your commissioning engineer back to have a look at it.

Me I was glad that I had just got Bugsy out to give me a full tank of oil. There’ll be no surprises there and I can manage it how I like.

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You need to opt in to allow them read the meter remotely.

I haven’t done it yet as it was asking me to select a new plan and it wasn’t clear if I was committing to a new contract by selecting a new plan.

you can get them retrofitted, but will only work if you do a serious upgrade on the house with insulation and air tightness. If the house is built properly and is well insulated, it shouldnt cost much to run. I have a ground source heat pump, so cant really comment too much on the practicalities of the A2W units and how much they use, but I know they arent as economical as the GS units. But not everyone will have the space to fire in the pipework system for the GS unit to work.

Anyone getting one in because they think they will just work in an existing house on the old radiators are entirely sold pups.

PV Panels will help supplement rising energy costs too, depending on usage and KWHs installed, you could have payback within 5 years, if not better. After that, its all savings on it. Plus having the safety net of keeping power on in the house when there are outages. They last on average 25-30 years, so having payback early on makes it more viable. When I initially looked at solar for water heating, payback was over 20 years, so a complete waste of time. Makes a lot more sense now that they are developed further to power the house and go back to the grid with any surplus, or storage into a battery.

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Not sure this is correct for the vast majority of installs anyway

no, but you can get it sorted on install. It wont keep the heat pump going or large draws like the cooker, but will keep lights and sockets going.

Unlikely. Standard install now for 4KW and a battery is around 15k. Might make sense if you’re charging a car, but otherwise it won’t. Electricity will hopefully come down a good bit in the next few months pushing out the payback. Grant is shit at 2500, and it’s producing most electricity when you don’t need it, in the summer. At peak usage in winter it’s generating fuck all.

absolutely depends on usage alright. it’ll never fully replace electricity supply off the grid, but for me, it accounts for 50% of my annual usage. At current rates, the payback would be much less than 5 years, but prices should come down so it will be somewhere about that, so depends on how far back they come.

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What exactly do you have, and how much did it cost?

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Is the tech not so new this is just pure speculation

6.99 the bale of briquettes in Aldi on Saturday. Lads getting fierce muggings off all over the country on this product it seems.

Aldi have warehouses full of product purchased back before 2 price increases

Well maybe you should be buying them in Aldi so.

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lolz

Thanks for the heads up. I buy very few of them. My point is Aldi are making more of a margin on them at 6.99 than those you might think are mugging people off eg Small independant outlets