In that case as I already said there is almost always a longer relationship with biological parent.
Question of whether biological relationship needs to be protected or whether that now becomes irrelevant.
Say you have a kid and break up with mother without being married - she dies after marrying a woman , should her wife have a greater right to child than you assuming child would be equally happy in either place? Constitution says marriage is corner stone of family unit
Are there any studies done on 2 father scenarios in the animal world? Are there any animal who would even go there, go against nature I mean and take a spare or a free baby and rear it as a couple?
The only one I’m aware of is yerman colm O’Gorman who went on and fucking on in a totally creepy way last night about how much love he provided to ‘his’ kids and how he made their packed lunches each day and how his ‘husband’ offered them something completely different (? I know fuck me).
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1132349, member: 2272”]In that case as I already said there is almost always a longer relationship with biological parent.
Question of whether biological relationship needs to be protected or whether that now becomes irrelevant.
Say you have a kid and break up with mother without being married - she dies after marrying a woman , should her wife have a greater right to child than you assuming child would be equally happy in either place? Constitution says marriage is corner stone of family unit[/QUOTE]
About the same claim if a mother re married currently.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1132349, member: 2272”]
Question of whether biological relationship needs to be protected or whether that now becomes irrelevant.
Say you have a kid and break up with mother without being married - she dies after marrying a woman , should her wife have a greater right to child than you assuming child would be equally happy in either place? Constitution says marriage is corner stone of family unit[/QUOTE]
What you seem to be arguing for here is that it should be illegal to have children out of wedlock.
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1132352, member: 234”]Are there any studies done on 2 father scenarios in the animal world? Are there any animal who would even go there, go against nature I mean and take a spare or a free baby and rear it as a couple?
The only one I’m aware of is yerman colm O’Gorman who went on and fucking on in a totally creepy way last night about how much love he provided to ‘his’ kids and how he made their packed lunches each day and how his ‘husband’ offered them something completely different (? I know fuck me).[/QUOTE]
In the animal world, mothers sometimes eat their young. Since you place such store on what happens in the animal world, why aren’t you campaigning for mothers eating their young to be legalised in the human world?
Typical yes lobby twisting.
There Is no precedent in nature as far as I can see that shows that it might be wise for the human race to go against the thousands of years of normality just to keep a loud minority happy in the year 2015 AD.
I suppuse we humans have raped the earth of just about anything of any use so normality is just the next step.
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1132366, member: 234”]Typical yes lobby twisting.
There Is no precedent in nature as far as I can see that shows that it might be wise for the human race to go against the thousands of years of normality just to keep a loud minority happy in the year 2015 AD.
I suppuse we humans have raped the earth of just about anything of any use so normality is just the next step.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. You appear to place a lot of store on what happens in the animal world. Mothers killing their young happens in the animal world. You are merely avoiding a question that is inconvenient to you.
Homosexual behaviour happens in the animal world and has been observed in over 1,500 species. Do you believe this homosexual behaviour in the animal world to be natural?
Do you consider human beings to be part of the animal world?
The way the left use social media these days is akin to fascism… Look at Floyd Mayweather… Now i’ve no love for the man but all week you can see an agenda building to create hate towards him. Yeah, maybe he is an utter cunt, but what has that got to do with the fight? It started with money, then domestic abuse, Tyson got involved, now a letter written by his then 10 year old son about the alleged hiding Floyd gave his wife/partner has surfaced… It’s ridiculous if you just sit back objectively and watch something grow like that and by the end you have your average Joe Soap spewing vile hatred about a topic they know very little about. The yes campaign here have been very guilty of this from the start- that’s hardly equality is it? Are there more debates set up on tv for this?
What? About whether Mayweather beats his wife? I don’t think so.
Two dudes ass fucking is the most disgusting thing in the world.
And I’m sick of this in Celtic times lies.
Some of us watched the celts come out from Spain. And we’re still here because women love us.
That’s a farce, typical of politicians in this country.
I approached this debate with an open mind and a general indifference to the issue. I decided that I would follow the TFK debate to get a true insight into the matter.
I have followed these two threads closely and have made up my mind based on the structured and reasonable points put across by both sides here.
I will be voting no.
[QUOTE=“Richie Mac an Breathnach, post: 1132382, member: 2646”]Two dudes ass fucking is the most disgusting thing in the world.
And I’m sick of this in Celtic times lies.
Some of us watched the celts come out from Spain. And we’re still here because women love us.[/QUOTE]
Do you think about gay sex a lot?
I was down in Cornelscourt last week and I saw a young lesbian couple out there shopping. They held hands and gave each other a passionate kiss, they were clearly two young people very much in love.
I was proud of my city that day. The tolerance we have is unreal. Let the hatred go lads, life is too short.
I really hope Floyd Mayweather wins tonight. That will be another victory for the no campaign 
It is really gathering momentum now that voting is only around the corner- the childer have been hard at it on facebook and twitter but it’s time their naivety was clipped and sent crashing down around them. Welcome to the real world- fuckos!
You probably think you’re clever.
No , I guess I just take it for granted, being a man, I think about ruining every woman there is.
[QUOTE=“Richie Mac an Breathnach, post: 1132392, member: 2646”]You probably think you’re clever.
No , I guess I just take it for granted, being a man, I think about ruining every woman there is.[/QUOTE]
I’ll take it that “ruining” means having sex.
So you want to have sex with Mary Harney?
Each to their own. Whether it’s passed or rejected the world won’t end on May 23rd. Being selfish it doesn’t really effect me so in all honesty I’m not too bothered about it.
It’s amazing, though, the sheer scale of the yes campaign on social media and even the mainstream media. “Yes for equality” and “straight up for equality” everywhere. If anyone dares to suggest they will be voting no they are savaged for merely having a different opinion. People are almost being shamed and bullied for (in their eyes) legitimately voting no. Even on debates on RTE, Newstalk and Today FM the advocates of a no vote are being badgered while those on the yes side face nothing like the same scrutiny or intense questioning.
I’ve decided to vote no, now.
[QUOTE=“Sandymount Red, post: 1132389, member: 1074”]I was down in Cornelscourt last week and I saw a young lesbian couple out there shopping. They held hands and gave each other a passionate kiss, they were clearly two young people very much in love.
I was proud of my city that day. The tolerance we have is unreal. Let the hatred go lads, life is too short.[/QUOTE]
Your lack of hatred isn’t normal. Get with the programme.
[QUOTE=“dodgy-keeper, post: 1132397, member: 1552”]Each to their own. Whether it’s passed or rejected the world won’t end on May 23rd. Being selfish it doesn’t really effect me so in all honesty I’m not too bothered about it.
It’s amazing, though, the sheer scale of the yes campaign on social media and even the mainstream media. “Yes for equality” and “straight up for equality” everywhere. If anyone dares to suggest they will be voting no they are savaged for merely having a different opinion. People are almost being shamed and bullied for (in their eyes) legitimately voting no. Even on debates on RTE, Newstalk and Today FM the advocates of a no vote are being badgered while those on the yes side face nothing like the same scrutiny or intense questioning.
I’ve decided to vote no, now.[/QUOTE]
That’s it. Hitler would have loved social media - he’d have taken over the world without firing a bullet, it’s fascists dream.