:rolleyes:
I’ll be voting “yes”, chaps.
Cmmmmmaaaaannnnn.
hmmmmm.
hmmmmm.
FYI, if the gays get this vote in, it means they can take kids of single mothers and other couples too who may or may not want to give kids up for adoption. Also surrogacy wont be banned if we vote yes, so make sure to vote no so surrogacy can be banned. And kids need mothers for more than 9 months as the poster says, so make sure we all vote no so the gays dont get their hands on the kids in this marriage referendum.
we need @Richard ‘The Gay’ back here to educate you a bit on what is going on.
[QUOTE=“dodgy-keeper, post: 1132397, member: 1552”]Each to their own. Whether it’s passed or rejected the world won’t end on May 23rd. Being selfish it doesn’t really effect me so in all honesty I’m not too bothered about it.
It’s amazing, though, the sheer scale of the yes campaign on social media and even the mainstream media. “Yes for equality” and “straight up for equality” everywhere. If anyone dares to suggest they will be voting no they are savaged for merely having a different opinion. People are almost being shamed and bullied for (in their eyes) legitimately voting no. Even on debates on RTE, Newstalk and Today FM the advocates of a no vote are being badgered while those on the yes side face nothing like the same scrutiny or intense questioning.
I’ve decided to vote no, now.[/QUOTE]
a very odd reason for voting no dodgy. At least the likes of special olympiakos and HBV will openly admit they hate gays and their repulsion of them means they’ll vote no. And thats their choice, I’d disagree, as voting no wont stop gayness spreading, and it would make fuck all difference in the scheme of things as gays can currently adopt, and they will still have relationships regardless of the vote. The marriage vote means they would be recognised in the constitution, and for other reasons like tax and next of kin etc.
but to vote no, because you are pissed off with straight people on a bandwagon and doing it to be contrary is just plain weird. I said it months ago on here, that the biggest hindrence to the yes campaign would be the people advocating for the yes campaign, and it seems that is the case. People seem to be furious at the yes “lies” and the yes bullying, but yet are happy enough to keep harping on about children and adoption, surrogacy, and all this other bluster, when none of it whatsoever has anything to do with the vote.
The surrogacy poster is a really horrible one to be honest, its horrible to straight people who cant conceive and to others who may have lost a mother. Many straight couples and single parents have survived without any issues, so I dont see why now it is a big deal to have a mother and a father. And why is it that the sole definition of being a parent is being able to conceive? Any fucking idiot can get themselves knocked up, not anyone is capable of being a parent.
the social media and the facebook profile pictures etc are a load of tosh, but fuck it, at the end of it all are we voting about the impact of social media on a bandwagon, or on the rights of people? It seems my opinion is not the opinion of the majority on here, but fuck it, what harm.
The word isn’t being redefined. Marriage in law will mean the same as it always did. It’s just that more people will have access to it.
At attention of @Gman , what are you hmming about? My ire has been about the cunts carrying out the yes campaign not really the issue, yet- I openly admitted I don’t know much about the children part of the debate… hmmm off you cunt.
these people already have access to it.
What are we voting on so?
[QUOTE=“Elvis Brandenberg Kremmen, post: 1132384, member: 1624”]I approached this debate with an open mind and a general indifference to the issue. I decided that I would follow the TFK debate to get a true insight into the matter.
I have followed these two threads closely and have made up my mind based on the structured and reasonable points put across by both sides here.
I will be voting no.[/QUOTE]
Yeah usually TFK would have a good debate on something like this with both sides arguing their case. The no side are dishing out a comprehensive pasting and getting a complete free run here though. HBV tassotti and chocolate mice are destroying all opposition that seems to just consist of Sidney making smartarse comments. The yes side seem to be running scared or maybe they just think the lads are on the wind up.
I was going to vote yes as i know a few gays and thought what harm but am changing my mind here quickly.
Being honest, I really couldn’t be bothered getting into any debate on here. My point being was that it seems ironic you saying the yes side are getting into a rage when they don’t know the full issue, yet that is exactly what your posts indicated too.
Ask Richard to explain the vote to you, I’m sure he’d be better versed than me about it all.
What are you shiteing on about now?
[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1132478, member: 112”]Being honest, I really couldn’t be bothered getting into any debate on here. My point being was that it seems ironic you saying the yes side are getting into a rage when they don’t know the full issue, yet that is exactly what your posts indicated too.
Ask Richard to explain the vote to you, I’m sure he’d be better versed than me about it all.[/QUOTE]
Another typical Yes advocate here.
Doesn’t want to debate.
No voters are either haters or fools.
Blah blah blah.
For the record, you little cunt. I have no hatred of gays, each to their own and good luck to them I know a few on the fringes of my circle and they can be tolerable once you don’t put too many together in a room. There is no evidence to even suggest I hate gays but I’m fully opposed to them being allowed marry. Deal with it but stop twisting it.
Now fuck off and spout your bile somewhere else.
[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1132478, member: 112”]Being honest, I really couldn’t be bothered getting into any debate on here. My point being was that it seems ironic you saying the yes side are getting into a rage when they don’t know the full issue, yet that is exactly what your posts indicated too.
Ask Richard to explain the vote to you, I’m sure he’d be better versed than me about it all.[/QUOTE]
I never claimed to understand the whole issue, mate, I haven’t claimed to… i’m just against fascism wherever I see it.
It’s a simple question, i’m not sure if I could break it down any further for you…
It’s an obvious and stupid attempt at an irrelevant point.
Does Princess have gay friends? Are you afraid they’ll start getting married and she’ll start getting ideas?
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1132485, member: 234”]Another typical Yes advocate here.
Doesn’t want to debate.
No voters are either haters or fools.
Blah blah blah.
For the record, you little cunt. I have no hatred of gays, each to their own and good luck to them I know a few on the fringes of my circle and they can be tolerable once you don’t put too many together in a room. There is no evidence to even suggest I hate gays but I’m fully opposed to them being allowed marry. Deal with it but stop twisting it.
Now fuck off and spout your bile somewhere else.[/QUOTE]
never called no voters haters or fools. there is plenty of evidence to show you hate gays, and if that is or isnt the case, it’s totally your outlook on things. Personally, I coulnt give a shite if you are the biggest flaming queen going, or if you are a Westboro baptist homophobic leader. you’ve made your feelings pretty clear on the issue, and it’s your democratic right ot vote whatever way you like. I prefer that you are voting because you believe in your vote, and are not doing it just to be contrary to piss off a straight voters bandwagon.
cunt. fuck off. twisting things. yet I’m the one spouting bile? you’d want to calm down mate, I didnt spout any bile anywhere, pal. If you have a read back over the posts, I think you’d find it’s your good self who seems to be most aggravated and angry in the thread.
In any case, if you want me to debate with you so, I will. What would you like to discuss about the impending referendum so?
fair enough mate. play the man and not the ball though. you going against the grain to piss off the majority is not going to affect that majority. the ones who it will affect are the ones, who from what I see, are actually being pretty reserved and quiet about the whole thing.
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1132492, member: 1533”]It’s an obvious and stupid attempt at an irrelevant point.
Does Princess have gay friends? Are you afraid they’ll start getting married and she’ll start getting ideas?[/QUOTE]
No, she doesn’t. It’s not irrelevant- these people are demanding legislation to marry who they want, that’s hardly fucking equality is it when the rest of us have to make do with what we can get. I want to marry Jennifer Lawrence, @Tassotti wants to marry some big black one - where’s our equality? bastards.
@HBV*
re the upcoming referendum, how do you think a no vote would be in the best interests to stop the issues regarding adoption and gays having rights to adopt or have surrogate mothers? Do you think it is in the best interests in the children of the country to vote no? And if so, would the main children protection agencies be advocating a no vote too?