Lol good one mate
Gay marriage may also mean pre-nuptial agreements being recognised - public policy reason for not recognising them was around children. Once that happens then straight couples will make argument for it.
Not against SSM but there will be consequences people won’t have considered.
Not all these consequences are necessarily bad but are they thought out.
Gay marriage means gay divorce but what if one of the couple is from or moves to a country that doesn’t recognise gay marriage.
Can they get divorced. Will other person have a claim against their assets/estate.
Going to be interesting but because it is framed as a civil rights question even asking these questions leaves one open to accusations of prejudice.
Was thinking the very same last night. Had a real chip on her shoulder and the lack of a father figure in her life gave her has to my mind, despite her protestations to the contrary, left her with a real bitterness deep down.
I just want to qualify everything I said with a reminder that I have a gay friend so I can make these kind of comments.
Surprising to see so many Tories go against party policy here, given that David Cameron legalised gay marriage in Britain.
Your standards are slipping.
I’ll be voting “yes”. It’s simple enough for me really, a certain section of society currently does not have access to the same constitutional rights and privileges as I do and I believe that to be wrong.
I’ve yet to hear the no side put forward a reasonable argument to vote no although it is their choice to vote whatever way the want without being vilified for doing so.
Some of the fundamental dogooder yes supporters would sicken your shit but it’s not reason enough to vote no
[QUOTE=“Fran, post: 1132514, member: 110”]I’ll be voting “yes”. It’s simple enough for me really, a certain section of society currently does not have access to the same constitutional rights and privileges as I do and I believe that to be wrong.
I’ve yet to hear the no side put forward a reasonable argument to vote no although it is their choice to vote whatever way the want without being vilified for doing so.
Some of the fundamental dogooder yes supporters would sicken your shit but it’s not reason enough to vote no[/QUOTE]
They’ve sickened my shit .
I presume you’re a psychologist? If not, why aren’t you one given that you can analyse somebody’s mind so accurately in 30 seconds?
[QUOTE=“Gman, post: 1132496, member: 112”]@HBV*
re the upcoming referendum, how do you think a no vote would be in the best interests to stop the issues regarding adoption and gays having rights to adopt or have surrogate mothers? Do you think it is in the best interests in the children of the country to vote no? And if so, would the main children protection agencies be advocating a no vote too?[/QUOTE]
I don’t think gays should be adopting kids, I’m strong on that.
I do not rely on state agencies to guide me, I have my own mind
I hope this covers everything for you.
He may just be perspicacious.
I’ve just listened to her, my god! She’s a hormonal mess- like someone on a 24/7 long period. That certainly shows a lack of male influence - I’m certainly voting no now.
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1132530, member: 234”]I don’t think gays should be adopting kids, I’m strong on that.
I do not rely on state agencies to guide me, I have my own mind
I hope this covers everything for you.[/QUOTE]
not quite. How will voting no affect the adoption issue?
[QUOTE=“Fran, post: 1132514, member: 110”]I’ll be voting “yes”. It’s simple enough for me really, a certain section of society currently does not have access to the same constitutional rights and privileges as I do and I believe that to be wrong.
I’ve yet to hear the no side put forward a reasonable argument to vote no although it is their choice to vote whatever way the want without being vilified for doing so.
Some of the fundamental dogooder yes supporters would sicken your shit but it’s not reason enough to vote no[/QUOTE]
I disagree with you but respect you and your opinion
Finally a yes man on here without the screaming Mary theatrics.
? Have you a point here?
Or he may* be talking a load of rubbish.
No may* about it.
is part of your voting no that you think it will stop gays adopting? apologies if I am confusing you, not the intention.
edit: I’m also not interested at all in changing your mind, not the intention of this either. I could not be arsed campaigning or debating.
Phew, that’s good to know.
There are eight outcome variables where differences between the children of homosexual parents and married parents were not only present, and favorable to the married parents, but where these findings were statistically significant for both children of lesbian mothers and “gay” fathers and both with and without controls. While all the findings in the study are important, these are the strongest possible ones–virtually irrefutable. Compared with children raised by their married biological parents (IBF), children of homosexual parents (LM and GF):
[LIST]
[]Are much more likely to have received welfare (IBF 17%; LM 69%; GF 57%)
[]Have lower educational attainment
[]Report less safety and security in their family of origin
[]Report more ongoing “negative impact” from their family of origin
[]Are more likely to suffer from depression
[]Have been arrested more often
[]If they are female, have had more sexual partners–both male andfemale
[/LIST]
The high mathematical standard of “statistical significance” was more difficult to reach for the children of “gay fathers” in this study because there were fewer of them. The following, however, are some additional areas in which the children of lesbian mothers (who represented 71% of all the children with homosexual parents in this study) differed from the IBF children, in ways that were statistically significant in both a direct comparison and with controls. Children of lesbian mothers:
[LIST]
[]Are more likely to be currently cohabiting
[]Are almost 4 times more likely to be currently on public assistance
[]Are less likely to be currently employed full-time
[]Are more than 3 times more likely to be unemployed
[]Are nearly 4 times more likely to identify as something other thanentirely heterosexual
[]Are 3 times as likely to have had an affair while married or cohabiting
[]Are an astonishing 10 times more likely to have been “touched sexually by a parent or other adult caregiver.”
[]Are nearly 4 times as likely to have been “physically forced” to have sex against their will
[]Are more likely to have “attachment” problems related to the ability to depend on others
[]Use marijuana more frequently
[]Smoke more frequently
[]Watch TV for long periods more frequently
[]Have more often pled guilty to a non-minor offense
[/LIST]
Differences in Sexuality