European and Local Elections

[quote=“farmerinthecity”]Panicking government of course that is my essential point. Address the bigger systematic failures within these areas.

I never advocated cuts. I advocated a system that attempts to ensure effiencies. If cuts in employment come as a result of that then so be it.[/QUOTE]

You said that you were sceptical about Higgins because he’s against public service cuts. Would you prefer he sat on the fence? To be honest I think at this stage you have to make a call about what sort of spending you want the government to make and where the savings will come from.

Higgins is of the viewpoint that improved allocation of government resources is more appropriate than the misguided and ultimately fruitless cuts we’ve seen so far. At some stage we have to realise what the public service is there for and it’s there to improve our nation by delivering services for the taxpayer. Obviously as KIB Man said there are efficiencies to be found everywhere, but compared to other countries we’re not big public spenders. And the focus on public sector reform as some sort of panacea for our economic difficulties is dangerously ignorant of the root causes of those economic problems.

Has anyone else noticed much tampering with election posters, it is rife in east clare/killaloe electorial area at the moment…

In what way?

When my brother was younger he cut the face out of a poster across the road from us and then stood on the wall behind it with his own face sticking through the hole. Was getting a great laugh out of it until the TD who’s poster it was drove past and got out of the car, brother legged so didn’t get to find out what he thought of it.

Cathal Crowe who is a fianna fail counciller has had things like judas and trust? written across his posters(done with a stensil which leads me to believe it was a professional job) while I was up around mountshannon/whitegate saturday morning and most of the posters, apart from their own counciller have been tampered with, white signs pasted on over them saying shite like vote Queen Maeve number one or vote fionn mccool number 1 etc

He was in UL when I was there. Seemed like an alright sort (for a politician)

I find that my journey to work in the morning involves me driving over 15 odd election posters. Fucking scumbags everywhere.

How many of the politicians on the 15 odd election posters support the revolving prision door system Flano.

[quote=“therock67”]You said that you were sceptical about Higgins because he’s against public service cuts. Would you prefer he sat on the fence? To be honest I think at this stage you have to make a call about what sort of spending you want the government to make and where the savings will come from.

And the focus on public sector reform as some sort of panacea for our economic difficulties is dangerously ignorant of the root causes of those economic problems.[/QUOTE]

Nothing to do with it being a panacea Rocko. You know your John Pilger as well as I do…the only alternative is raise corporate taxes, and fuck knows we can’t have that.

er no it’s not

there are several viable options open

thy can cut capital spending, infrastructure etc
stop the bailout of the lame duck anglo irish
they can cut welfare payments for long term unemployed i.e those over 10 years and link welfare payments to social behaviour i.e crime & drugs
tear up all those cosy contracts for supplies, services and buldings for all govt departments and tender them out again
start using generic drugs in the health service

[quote=“artfoley”]er no it’s not

there are several viable options open

thy can cut capital spending, infrastructure etc
stop the bailout of the lame duck anglo irish
they can cut welfare payments for long term unemployed i.e those over 10 years and link welfare payments to social behaviour i.e crime & drugs
tear up all those cosy contracts for supplies, services and buldings for all govt departments and tender them out again
start using generic drugs in the health service[/QUOTE]

Stop reading the spectator foley. This pseudo-intellectualism does not suit you.

spec what now ?

that was just off the top of my head, I can dumb myself to your level when needs must:p

[quote=“artfoley”]spec what now ?

that was just off the top of my head, I can dumb myself to your level when needs must:p[/QUOTE]

What a Mong you truely are.

[quote=“artfoley”]er no it’s not

there are several viable options open

thy can cut capital spending, infrastructure etc
stop the bailout of the lame duck anglo irish
they can cut welfare payments for long term unemployed i.e those over 10 years and link welfare payments to social behaviour i.e crime & drugs
tear up all those cosy contracts for supplies, services and buldings for all govt departments and tender them out again
start using generic drugs in the health service[/QUOTE]

Yeah, yeah. David Cameron has enough mouths foley. A few obvious targets and WELFARE WELFARE WELFARE!!! Original thinking alright. Reagan is dead foley and thatcher is soon to follow.

and public service is original thinking too ?

19.5 bn per year on welfare, we have people who have never contributed to society and it should be a hand up not a hand out, can you justify someone getting 204 per week for sitting at home and having never gone into the workforce ? and then all the other attached things like housing, legal, medical, bus pass, phone line etc. they are better off than thousands of people who go to work every day and are really struggling

[quote=“artfoley”]and public service is original thinking too ?

19.5 bn per year on welfare, we have people who have never contributed to society and it should be a hand up not a hand out, can you justify someone getting 204 per week for sitting at home and having never gone into the workforce ? and then all the other attached things like housing, legal, medical, bus pass, phone line etc. they are better off than thousands of people who go to work every day and are really struggling[/QUOTE]

Yep they are the problem foley. Eat the poor etc. etc. etc…

right so, going by your logic, we’ll put another 10,000 people on the dole and have all the knock on effects that it will have.

well done you have reached stage 1 of fianna fail logical thinking:rolleyes:

we’ll discuss this further tomorrow, goodnight for now

[quote=“artfoley”]right so, going by your logic, we’ll put another 10,000 people on the dole and have all the knock on effects that it will have.

well done you have reached stage 1 of fianna fail logical thinking:rolleyes:

we’ll discuss this further tomorrow, goodnight for now[/QUOTE]

That’s it foley. You’re either with us or against us etc. etc. etc…

Does a by-election count as a local election?

No.

It is clearly a by-election.

70% first preference votes for Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil combined. :eek: