Tom is an NFL fan. So he is presumably very comfortable with the franchise model
I hope players and managers speak out against this. The more that do, the better. But if it does come to it, you can’t blame the players for benefitting from it. Some people are trying to put the blame on players for football finances over the last X number of years/decades spiralling out of control. The players are not the ones to blame. I’d far rather see that money in the players hands than in the hands of the likes of Florentino Perez.
Supporters are the people that have the most power, but they have to act collectively. And currently there’s too much of a willingness to submit to a divide and conquer narrative among people who essentially have the same view. Gary Neville is dead right about all this.
My hunch is that followers of the game worldwide are not quite the caricature they are painted as, and most of them will not find a closed cartel league any more stimulating than followers in Europe.
Players earning and demanding 500,000 every week are not immune from criticism here
It did not. Leeds have just come out of 16 years trawling the second and third tiers. They were the champions when the Premier League began.
Blame the players and managers? No.
But they are the only ones who really have the power to derail this? If they enrich themselves off the back of it then they are as bad IMO.
It’s the players who are the star attraction of football. This is where the likes of Messi and Ronaldo can show the world do they have any bit of principle or integrity about them or are they happy to profit off the new riches on offer.
it’s just more greed. like when you see the shit with what Pogbas agent got paid for united move …or before that atletico getting to champs league with a load of players owned by third party or the controversy over who owned tevez and mashcarano i think…If it was a working class game there’d still all be playing in their original stadiums …
Tom is fine … but talking about disbanding the clubs is as retarded as the suggestion of the super league itself… You’re essentially giving fifa and uefa even more power to do as they like.
They have power, but they have to act collectively. Supporters have a bigger collective power because if people protest and boycott something at large, it can’t succeed. Football can’t function without supporters.
I think it was @Big_Dan_Campbell who made the point earlier that this has some similarities to the NFL but the NFL has a draft and a cap limit.
Does the lack of relegation open up the possibility of a cap limit eventually? I’m not sure about the competition law aspect here - my vague understanding is that the NFL and college game basically breach US competition law but are seen as a big glaring exception that get away with it because they’ve so much clout. It would be funny if some players jump on this only to get fucked down the line (a long way down the line).
You’ve changed the question you asked
The same Everton who were in the Big 5 who pushed for the Premier League.
Moving stadiums is not the reason for the growing disconnect football has with the working class. I happen to think most new stadiums are soulless enough, but the Bernabeu and the Nou Camp were once new stadiums. Shamrock Rovers play in a new stadium but they have not disconnected their supporters. They disconnected them when they left Milltown and went on a 22 year tour of the football grounds of Dublin alright, but Tallaght Stadium has not disconnected their support, it has reconnected them.
What are the stats on clubs being relegated from EPL getting back up to it in following season or two. Parachute payments have rigged the game.
Who is currently one and two in the Championship?
Why does Top 4 matter more than FA Cup.
Football sold its soul a long time ago. UEFA are a scumbag organisation and deserve this.
I asked a question and you haven’t given a satisfactory answer. Your main point is that it “protects investments”, ie. it benefits the Glazers, John Henry, Abu Dhabi, Roman Abramovich, Stan Kroenke, Daniel Levy, the Agnellis and Florentino Perez. Cry me a river for those people. You have advanced zero sporting case.
I think they’re proposing a 55% of revenue salary cap, not a flat salary cap.
You didn’t ask for a sporting case.
The reason they propose no relegation is not sporting. It’s to derisk player and stadium investment.
It would mean all the best players playing in that league. Is that a sporting reason?
Once fans celebrate the richness of the owner who buys them they lose the right to complain about things like a Super League.
Would Everton or Leeds fans turn down an Emirati owner who’d plough money into them
I love the narrative from the shills, tying to make everything about UEFA. Neat propaganda trick.
Nobody cares much for UEFA. They care about the sport.
You’re right… football sold out long ago. Lads like @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy, @Tank and @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy cheered on as it happened but now are against it
They encouraged rolling around on the ground and diving.
They championed the expansion of the CL to include 3rd/4th place
They screamed for var
They actively petitioned for the Qatar WC and their silence on the slave labour and deaths involved is sickening.
These are the same guys that championed Dela
But now they are against the Super League
The sport is long gone pal when Top 4 matters more than a Cup.
You’re grieving for something already dead a long time ago.