Fitness XL- Your training routine

[QUOTE=“tallback, post: 938461, member: 1158”]Just purchased a foam roller recently to try and assist with a tight hamstring. Any suggestions on good sites/guides to get more info on how best to use?[/QUOTE]Its one of the few muscles that I find least effective on the foam roller, very hard to get a right run at it. My technique is prob shit (sit on floor, one leg over the other and use hands to roll over and back, foam roller sitting under the hamstring obviously!), @caoimhaoin might have a better method.

As KP suggests it’s hard to use on hammys. However harder/PVC types have worked for me, but you need two blocks or something the height of the roller either side to raise you up. Takes you up to allow you you get weight on hammys. Also allows a bit if relief on wrists which I find off the ground hurt when trying to get hammys.

As in Pre-Hab, Re-hab, Performance?

People like to come up with fancy names and easy tags for things and I wasn’t very familiar with what you were on about. However after googling it and having a quick brush over it, it seems to be in line with a lot of my leanings and experiences as well as my practices. Just another word for what I would describe as functional movement improvement.

agreed , you could take the wheels off the trolley and load it with a few blocks or a bag of cement, the shifting load would also do good for balance and core work… seriously tho just use the prowler, PM me if any help or advice needed

@chewy louie , would you reccommed piggy backs for quad strength, as in out to the 21 and back, etc?
cheers

What are they going to say in my local supermarket when I do that. I will at least forfeit my one euro/two euro deposit

that’s why id advise using a prowler

tight hamstrings are caused by tight hips and lower back
treat those and your hamstring won’t be tight any more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q02J_hFzmR0

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 938480, member: 273”]As in Pre-Hab, Re-hab, Performance?

People like to come up with fancy names and easy tags for things and I wasn’t very familiar with what you were on about. However after googling it and having a quick brush over it, it seems to be in line with a lot of my leanings and experiences as well as my practices. Just another word for what I would describe as functional movement improvement.[/QUOTE]

Protein Rich Plasma injections. I thought they’d be all the rage in Australia.

No idea. I think they should ban all intravenous methods of “nutrition”. Including last minute before the game jabs. They need to be banned across the board.

[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 938492, member: 2272”]tight hamstrings are caused by tight hips and lower back
treat those and your hamstring won’t be tight any more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q02J_hFzmR0
[/QUOTE]
It’s not tht simple. You could have weak Glutes, opposite inflexible Lats, tight pecs can even lead to hamstring issues.
Lower Crossed syndrome is very common amongst Amatuer fitness enthusiasts and sports people.

Why exactly?
There are plenty of Pro’s out there really pushing it with legal PED’s like adderall,cortisone and painkillers which are fine of you have a prescription. Even Viagra because it helps blood flow.
I’m not sure how they manage concealing a horn though.

[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 938724, member: 2406”]Why exactly?
There are plenty of Pro’s out there really pushing it with legal PED’s like adderall,cortisone and painkillers which are fine of you have a prescription. Even Viagra because it helps blood flow.
I’m not sure how they manage concealing a horn though.[/QUOTE]
I’m thinking mostly Amatuer and semi-pro. When big money is involved it’s hard to stop anything.

The main reason to say no to PED’s is for health reasons, it tht simple, people have died because of them. And don’t listen to “Pro’s”, some if them are the thickest an uneducated people you are likely to meet with the notable exception of rugby.

For a GAA player or Ail player or whatever taking a shot means you are not healthy enough to play, you are doing untold damage to yourself and if repeated it can help shorten your life.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 938735, member: 273”]I’m thinking mostly Amatuer and semi-pro. When big money is involved it’s hard to stop anything.

The main reason to say no to PED’s is for health reasons, it tht simple, people have died because of them. And don’t listen to “Pro’s”, some if them are the thickest an uneducated people you are likely to meet with the notable exception of rugby.

For a GAA player or Ail player or whatever taking a shot means you are not healthy enough to play, you are doing untold damage to yourself and if repeated it can help shorten your life.[/QUOTE]
True on the playing through injury, i’m not so sold on the life threatening bit though. There are lots of bodybuilders/powerlifters who are vocal on the fact they juice a lot and are not suffering for it in the slightest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIiIKB7uDCc

A fairly impartial documentary on it if you have a spare hour and a half.

Rich Piana on youtube is especially open about his steroid use. Seems to talk a lot of sense about it.

I don’t agree with the use of PED’s, but they are used everywhere and increasingly by students.

[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 938741, member: 2406”]True on the playing through injury, i’m not so sold on the life threatening bit though. There are lots of bodybuilders/powerlifters who are vocal on the fact they juice a lot and are not suffering for it in the slightest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIiIKB7uDCc

A fairly impartial documentary on it if you have a spare hour and a half.

Rich Piana on youtube is especially open about his steroid use. Seems to talk a lot of sense about it.

I don’t agree with the use of PED’s, but they are used everywhere and increasingly by students.[/QUOTE]
The side effects are terrible and really affect your social life. The long term affects are not totally known, but there had been enough deaths to be extremely wary.

As for the shots shortening a life, if someone gets plenty of them they are. Playing in constantly damaged joints leads to arthritis and many other bone and neuromuscular complications. When older people lose strength and have poor mobility the knock on’s are a disaster. What might start out as an ankle issue can be the catalyst for many more health issues. They break you down, you get depressed etc etc. I’m sure it makes sense to you when you look at it that way.

People were told smoking was ok, and even healthy, in the past. That went well didn’t it.

As I say, listening to pro sportsmen is a bit silly.

[QUOTE=“Bad Winner, post: 938741, member: 2406”]True on the playing through injury, i’m not so sold on the life threatening bit though. There are lots of bodybuilders/powerlifters who are vocal on the fact they juice a lot and are not suffering for it in the slightest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIiIKB7uDCc

A fairly impartial documentary on it if you have a spare hour and a half.

Rich Piana on youtube is especially open about his steroid use. Seems to talk a lot of sense about it.

I don’t agree with the use of PED’s, but they are used everywhere and increasingly by students.[/QUOTE]
I said life shortening btw, not threatening.

[QUOTE=“mickee321, post: 938487, member: 367”]@chewy louie , would you reccommed piggy backs for quad strength, as in out to the 21 and back, etc?
cheers[/QUOTE]

it worked for wolfe tone

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 938847, member: 273”]The side effects are terrible and really affect your social life. The long term affects are not totally known, but there had been enough deaths to be extremely wary.

As for the shots shortening a life, if someone gets plenty of them they are. Playing in constantly damaged joints leads to arthritis and many other bone and neuromuscular complications. When older people lose strength and have poor mobility the knock on’s are a disaster. What might start out as an ankle issue can be the catalyst for many more health issues. They break you down, you get depressed etc etc. I’m sure it makes sense to you when you look at it that way.

People were told smoking was ok, and even healthy, in the past. That went well didn’t it.

As I say, listening to pro sportsmen is a bit silly.[/QUOTE]

That’s why I’m working my balls off with hip rehab at the moment. Last thing you want in early/mid thirties is a major joint surgery that could adversely affect mobility gradually in other areas before leading to a total breakdown. :frowning:

No you don’t want that. However, keep the head and faith. If you do corrective work and stay consistent there is no reason to believe you cannot 1, get right again, 2 play sport again.
Even if you do need surgery then don’t fret either, it could be the best thing ever, as long a you improve your lifestyle, exercise, mobility and general good habits you won’t have any problems. One of two things happens a lot though.

  1. People use it as an excuse to look for sympathy, work less, be lazy, eat and drink excessively. They put themselves in a worse position but in reality they are looking for other things in their lives and use injury as a way to blame everything.
  2. They get immediately depressed. They happens mostly to active people or sports people. The majority of these see light at end of the tunnel after they get an op, or start recovery and rehab or whatever and then it becomes a challenge. However the odd one of these sorts depending on personal circumstances fall into catogary 1.

Changing to a healthy lifestyle takes 1-3 years of changing little things as you go. You will have little lapses, I was really busy and very tired about 2 weeks ago, work, training, coaching, study (assignment) all came to a head for about a fortnight. My diet went to shit. Had a team binding session in the middle of it. I enjoyed the drinking session and it was a release, but I was not long reminding myself why I had left all that behind. You don’t have to stop everything, just adjust. I shortened my training sessions to 40 mins and made it all based around home an the park next door. That freed up time. I have myself an hour for study each evening. Suddenly my diet improved as I wasn’t as rushed and I was more organized.

Basically my point is I fell into old habits, but seeing as I have been living better for 5-6 years now I was able to drag myself back easy enough. The first couple of months take serious balls and work and determination, and loads of planning.

Well worth it though.

Do you ever find that you have a savage rage leaving these sessions?

I drove to work like Senna this morning and only for a bit of Fleet Foxes and Midlake that mellowed me slightly I would have probably taken out a few pedestrians coming through Clarinbridge.