[quote=“north county corncrake”]its getting tiresome now Art , we get it, your’e a racist that doesnt beleive in social inclusion -
a thatcherite if ever there was one[/quote]
godwins law again, yawn !
[quote=“north county corncrake”]its getting tiresome now Art , we get it, your’e a racist that doesnt beleive in social inclusion -
a thatcherite if ever there was one[/quote]
Actually, thats what this country needs now…a shot of a Thatcher type figure…she led Great Britain out of an awful recession at the time.
like the PD’s:D
that cunt mcdowell is a prime example of what’s wrong with the criminal justice system in this country
more interested in law than justice
[quote=“artfoley”]that cunt mcdowell is a prime example of what’s wrong with the criminal justice system in this country
more interested in law than justice[/quote]
cease & desist with this train of thought mate
Revitilising Areas through Planning Integration & Development will fight crime more affectively than throwing people in jail or killing them,
The PD’S alleged they were to the right but like every party in this country (honourable exception SF) they quickly gravitated towards the centre.
Maybe Libertas will save us all.
[quote=“north county corncrake”]cease & desist with this train of thought mate
Revitilising Areas through Planning Integration & Development will fight crime more affectively than throwing people in jail or killing them,[/quote]
yes i’m sure that “projected studies” have probably shown statistically that these should work. I mean what thieving knackbag when asked in a survey “would you be more likely to not live a life of crime if we gave you a new shiny home even though you contribute nothing to the econmy and are nothing but a drain on society”
based on this theory I’m full sure that we will hear of no trouble next year from the “small minority” at SRFC 
[quote=“artfoley”]yes i’m sure that “projected studies” have probably shown statistically that these should work. I mean what thieving knackbag when asked in a survey “would you be more likely to not live a life of crime if we gave you a new shiny home even though you contribute nothing to the econmy and are nothing but a drain on society”
based on this theory I’m full sure that we will hear of no trouble next year from the “small minority” at SRFC :p[/quote]
you should be finding out why there are people that become a “drain on society” & try & correct the conditions that lead to this or else it will happen again & again & again - locking hem up isnt solving the problem
and neither is your social inclusion theory, there are people who takje the piss and there are those that are just born evil
i have no doubt the statistics show that the socially included are more likely to commit/be punished for crime
well off ye go and find that well read ESRI report !!!
Statistics show that both offenders and victims of crimes often suffer from one or more aspects of social exclusion. For example, an offender may come from a childhood of poverty, or a victim may be a gang member excluded from mainstream security. It is possible to see how combined factors such as family change, drug misuse, or mental health problems could make a person more susceptible to criminal activities.
Government figures show that the 5% most disadvantaged are 100 times more likely to have multiple problems than the most advantaged 50%, including conduct disorders, police contact, cannabis use, mood disorders and alcohol abuse.
The socially excluded as victims of crime
Some areas are known to have high levels of crime and disorder, yet the people living in them may not be financially or physically able to move out if they want to. They may feel afraid at night, live far from family and friends, or be excluded from the politics of their local community. Fear of crime itself is considered to be a cause of social exclusion. It is also important to remember that many offenders are also victims.
Among women aged 60 and over, those from lower income households are one and a half times as likely to feel very unsafe out at night as those from higher income households.
Lone parent households and unemployed people are both twice as likely to be burgled, and to be victims of violence as the average person.
People on very low incomes, living in inner city areas, in bad health and social renting are all more likely to be very worried about both burglary and being mugged than people on average.
The risk of becoming a victim of violent crime according to the 2005/06 British Crime Survey showed the following:
Those who are unemployed are at higher risk than those in employment (6.6% vs. 3.9%).
Those in the ACORN category Hard Pressed are at higher risk than those in the Wealthy Achievers category (4.7% vs. 2.3%).
Single people were at higher risk (7.8%) than married (1.6%) or widowed (0.6%) people, and were in particular at risk of stranger and acquaintance violence.
People living in areas with high levels of physical disorder are also at higher risk of violent victimisation (6.3%).
Domestic violence provides an example of victimisation that can lead to extreme social exclusion. It can be the cause of ill health, poverty and constant fear of physical harm which prevents stable employment or social activities.
At least 50% of women in prison report being victims of childhood abuse or domestic violence.
Social exclusion and crime at the community level
Some communities or neighbourhoods are more affected than others by financial deprivation, lack of jobs, poor public transport, and low-quality schools and housing. This type of concentration of disadvantage can give an area a negative reputation leaving the people in it feeling isolated with limited opportunities.
Concentrated poverty usually occurs in urban areas, dominated by council housing.
Illegal income-making prospects may be highly visible to young people in the community.
There may be only a few drug dealers operating in the deprived area, but this means many more people will be coming to the community to buy drugs, intimidating neighbours and perhaps committing other offences while they are there.
Low income households are more likely than richer households to feel dissatisfied with the area they live in.
Residents of council estates regard crime as a more serious local problem than any other group, although affluent urban areas, often near council estates, also regard it as the key issue affecting local quality of life.
The social exclusion of prisoners
The disadvantage of offenders is exacerbated by imprisonment. With prisons at capacity, more offenders are facing exclusion from society and crucially from their families.
Compared with the general population people in prison are:
13 times as likely to have been in care as a child.
13 times as likely to be unemployed.
10 times as likely to have been a regular truant from school.
2.5 times as likely to have had a family member convicted of a criminal offence.
6 times as likely to have been a young father.
15 times as likely to be HIV positive.
Income
72% of prisoners were in receipt of benefits immediately before entering prison.
48% of prisoners came to prison with a history of debt (compared to 10% of households in the general population).
Health
60% to 70% of prisoners were using drugs before imprisonment.
Over 70% suffer from at least two mental disorders.
20% of male and 37%of female sentenced prisoners have attempted suicide in the past.
Around half of prisoners had no GP before they came into custody.
Education
49% of male and 33% female sentenced prisoners were excluded from school.
89% of men and 84% of women in prison left school at 16 or younger.
52% of men and 71% of women in prison have no qualifications (compared to 15% of the general population).
Employment
67% of prisoners were unemployed in the 4 weeks before imprisonment (compared to 5% in the general population).
Around two-thirds of those prisoners who do have a job lose it whilst in custody.
63% of young people in prison were unemployed at the time of arrest.
Housing
4.7% of prisoners report sleeping rough immediately prior to imprisonment (compared to .001% of the general population).
32% of prisoners were not living in permanent accommodation prior to imprisonment.
96% of mentally-disordered prisoners were put back into the community without supported housing.
Ethnicity
Of all those sentenced to custody in the second quarter of 2005, more than one in five were from a minority ethnic group.
In 2002 there were more African Caribbean entrants to prison than there were to UK universities.
Children
Just 5% of women prisoners children remain in their own home once their mother has been sentenced.
7% of school children experience their father being sent to prison.
Nearly a third (30%) of prisoners children experience significant mental health problems, compared with 10% of the general population.
[quote=“north county corncrake”]Statistics show that both offenders and victims of crimes often suffer from one or more aspects of social exclusion. For example, an offender may come from a childhood of poverty, or a victim may be a gang member excluded from mainstream security. It is possible to see how combined factors such as family change, drug misuse, or mental health problems could make a person more susceptible to criminal activities.
Government figures show that the 5% most disadvantaged are 100 times more likely to have multiple problems than the most advantaged 50%, including conduct disorders, police contact, cannabis use, mood disorders and alcohol abuse.
The socially excluded as victims of crime
Some areas are known to have high levels of crime and disorder, yet the people living in them may not be financially or physically able to move out if they want to. They may feel afraid at night, live far from family and friends, or be excluded from the politics of their local community. Fear of crime itself is considered to be a cause of social exclusion. It is also important to remember that many offenders are also victims.
Among women aged 60 and over, those from lower income households are one and a half times as likely to feel very unsafe out at night as those from higher income households.
Lone parent households and unemployed people are both twice as likely to be burgled, and to be victims of violence as the average person.
People on very low incomes, living in inner city areas, in bad health and social renting are all more likely to be very worried about both burglary and being mugged than people on average.
The risk of becoming a victim of violent crime according to the 2005/06 British Crime Survey showed the following:
Those who are unemployed are at higher risk than those in employment (6.6% vs. 3.9%).
Those in the ACORN category Hard Pressed are at higher risk than those in the Wealthy Achievers category (4.7% vs. 2.3%).
Single people were at higher risk (7.8%) than married (1.6%) or widowed (0.6%) people, and were in particular at risk of stranger and acquaintance violence.
People living in areas with high levels of physical disorder are also at higher risk of violent victimisation (6.3%).
Domestic violence provides an example of victimisation that can lead to extreme social exclusion. It can be the cause of ill health, poverty and constant fear of physical harm which prevents stable employment or social activities.
At least 50% of women in prison report being victims of childhood abuse or domestic violence.
Social exclusion and crime at the community level
Some communities or neighbourhoods are more affected than others by financial deprivation, lack of jobs, poor public transport, and low-quality schools and housing. This type of concentration of disadvantage can give an area a negative reputation leaving the people in it feeling isolated with limited opportunities.
Concentrated poverty usually occurs in urban areas, dominated by council housing.
Illegal income-making prospects may be highly visible to young people in the community.
There may be only a few drug dealers operating in the deprived area, but this means many more people will be coming to the community to buy drugs, intimidating neighbours and perhaps committing other offences while they are there.
Low income households are more likely than richer households to feel dissatisfied with the area they live in.
Residents of council estates regard crime as a more serious local problem than any other group, although affluent urban areas, often near council estates, also regard it as the key issue affecting local quality of life.
The social exclusion of prisoners
The disadvantage of offenders is exacerbated by imprisonment. With prisons at capacity, more offenders are facing exclusion from society and crucially from their families.
Compared with the general population people in prison are:
13 times as likely to have been in care as a child.
13 times as likely to be unemployed.
10 times as likely to have been a regular truant from school.
2.5 times as likely to have had a family member convicted of a criminal offence.
6 times as likely to have been a young father.
15 times as likely to be HIV positive.
Income
72% of prisoners were in receipt of benefits immediately before entering prison.
48% of prisoners came to prison with a history of debt (compared to 10% of households in the general population).
Health
60% to 70% of prisoners were using drugs before imprisonment.
Over 70% suffer from at least two mental disorders.
20% of male and 37%of female sentenced prisoners have attempted suicide in the past.
Around half of prisoners had no GP before they came into custody.
Education
49% of male and 33% female sentenced prisoners were excluded from school.
89% of men and 84% of women in prison left school at 16 or younger.
52% of men and 71% of women in prison have no qualifications (compared to 15% of the general population).
Employment
67% of prisoners were unemployed in the 4 weeks before imprisonment (compared to 5% in the general population).
Around two-thirds of those prisoners who do have a job lose it whilst in custody.
63% of young people in prison were unemployed at the time of arrest.
Housing
4.7% of prisoners report sleeping rough immediately prior to imprisonment (compared to .001% of the general population).
32% of prisoners were not living in permanent accommodation prior to imprisonment.
96% of mentally-disordered prisoners were put back into the community without supported housing.
Ethnicity
Of all those sentenced to custody in the second quarter of 2005, more than one in five were from a minority ethnic group.
In 2002 there were more African Caribbean entrants to prison than there were to UK universities.
Children
Just 5% of women prisoners children remain in their own home once their mother has been sentenced.
7% of school children experience their father being sent to prison.
Nearly a third (30%) of prisoners children experience significant mental health problems, compared with 10% of the general population.[/quote]
yeah, not gonna trawl through that
summarise it for me
[quote=“artfoley”]yeah, not gonna trawl through that
summarise it for me[/quote]
bullit point form if possible please NCC
[FONT=“Arial Black”][SIZE=“4”]Government figures show that the 5% most disadvantaged are 100 times more likely to have multiple problems than the most advantaged 50%, including conduct disorders, police contact, cannabis use, mood disorders and alcohol abuse.[/SIZE][/FONT]
skobies break the law a lot more than those with jobs
my god, did these guys cure cancer as well
maybe we should casterate all the males in the 5% and the next generation won’t have to deal with them…After all children are the future…
[quote=“artfoley”]skobies break the law a lot more than those with jobs
my god, did these guys cure cancer as well[/quote]
so would it not be better fighting disadvantage:rolleyes:
we’ll fight disadvantage with those who want to better themselves, those who can’t be arsed to ift a finger can go fuck themselves
we are going around in circles now - please refer to my first post tonight;)