Further Things That Are Wrong (Part 2)

[Massey]

I’ve a brother in law in Cork who was pissing and moaning about having to pay for houses in Donegal that were falling down.He wasn’t long changing his tune last week when his own county took a pummeling.Corkness etc etc @myboyblue

[myboyblue]

@Massey

I’ve a brother in law in Cork who was pissing and moaning about having to pay for houses in Donegal that were falling down.He wasn’t long changing his tune last week when his own county took a pummeling.Corkness etc etc @myboyblue

Ah thats lovely.

[backinatracksuit]

I know, that was meant for @Juhniallio

[glasagusban]

There’s ultimately been a failure by the state in both cases. In a rich country it’s reasonable to expect the state to step in.

[StoneCold]

I find it strange that when the HSE is in front of a committee yesterday complaining about a shortfall in their budget that relief for flood victims is announced.

[glasagusban]

I find the budget decision on health strange all round, an open goal for the opposition.

[farmerinthecity]

Imagine being given a budget for the year, and then in October turning around and saying we have to introduce a recruitment ban because we have spent all our money, and that this is terrible so we need even more money next year?! Don’t ask any questions though about how we managed the money.

Only with the HSE. McGrath et al were fully right to stick it to the management.

[flattythehurdler]

Does the wealth of the state play a role in the morality of it?

[glasagusban]

The budget has been a fiction for years, they need a top up every year. So Finance/Public Expenditure are equally complicit.

[farmerinthecity]

@glasagusban

The budget has been a fiction for years, they need a top up every year. So Finance/Public Expenditure are equally complicit.

Agree. But at least now a stand has been taken.

[glasagusban]

In the fairness of it, I suppose not. But we have capacity to help, it’s certainly a factor. In a third world country it wouldn’t even be for discussion.

[TreatyStones]

@farmerinthecity

Imagine being given a budget for the year, and then in October turning around and saying we have to introduce a recruitment ban because we have spent all our money, and that this is terrible so we need even more money next year?! Don’t ask any questions though about how we managed the money.

Only with the HSE. McGrath et al were fully right to stick it to the management.

I think you are completely correct.
I’d say the HSE were continually operating on the basis that the given budget didn’t matter because they’d always get a top up at the end of the year. They had to called to halt eventually.

[farmerinthecity]

The current situation where there is a blanket ban on recruitment in many areas of the health service, regardless of need, is atrocious management.

The HSE are ultimately responsible for that. Gloster is no doubt being strategic but you’d wonder about Reid’s management when he was in the role.

[TheUlteriorMotive]

@farmerinthecity

you’d wonder about Reid’s management when he was in the role.

He was chosen from the best candidates globally in a contest.

[TreatyStones]

@farmerinthecity

The current situation where there is a blanket ban on recruitment in many areas of the health service, regardless of need, is atrocious management.

The HSE are ultimately responsible for that. Gloster is no doubt being strategic but you’d wonder about Reid’s management when he was in the role.

Was Robert Watt taking the Government side at the hearings yesterday? Said the budget was adequate?

[farmerinthecity]

There is no love lost between the Department of Health and the HSE.

Yes - they are two separate organisations.

[glasagusban]

They need to take a hard line approach with them and if people get sick and die in the final quarter of the year then that’s just tough luck.

[farmerinthecity]

It was in COVID as well.

[TreatyStones]

@glasagusban

They need to take a hard line approach with them and if people get sick and die in the final quarter of the year then that’s just tough luck.

Ok, HSE Management should be completely unaccountable and keep getting money shoveled at them so to do as they wish.

[artfoley]

@glasagusban

In the fairness of it, I suppose not. But we have capacity to help, it’s certainly a factor. In a third world country it wouldn’t even be for discussion.

sure lookit, we’lll give them a blank cheque and im sure theyll deliver a world class health system, just as good and bestest in the world as the childrens hospital will be