Stella OāMalley is a grifting creep who does immense damage to trans people and has got a huge amount of profile, notoriety and adulation form the worst people in society from doing so. Sheās knows exactly what sheās doing in a publicity sense even if she hasnāt a clue in a psychotherapy or basic empathy sense.
Sheās the sort of person who is frustrated she isnāt a 1950ās parish priest scouring country lanes at night with a big stick for courting couples committing sin. The sort of person youāre embarrassed is Irish.
Utterly predictable to see one of our āfree thinkingā racist creeps is a fan of her.
A sense of identity is fine and we all should respect that. I think people can and should be able to respect that a person may feel their gender and sex donāt align without also having to be compelled to reject biology which leads to the silliness of men being asked if they are pregnant.
Sheās a predator who preys on vulnerable people.
āBut I donāt think you should have any empathy, and I havenāt asked anybody to have any empathy and I donāt think you should have empathy or sympathy.āā
āSo Iām kind of going- if some people are saying it is, and some people are saying it isnāt, my feeling is itās developmental. I donāt really care whether itās innate or not because I donāt think that absolves anybody. I donāt think thatās the point. The compulsion is a much more- more um important psychological point because if you look at pedophilia, itās a compulsion. It gets- it gets them. And how do we get in the way of somebody who has a compulsion that actually seriously negatively wrecks other peopleās lives? How do we stop that?ā
Most people are fair minded and will say live and let live. But modern politics is undermined by corporate capitalism and the headbnger left in universities - politicians want to be everyoneās friend instead of just governing. The fact our own lot are willing to put this nonsense into law speaks volumes about where politics is currently at. It actually undermines the health of people who suffer from gender dysphoria- the opposite of what they are pitching.
Can you break your opinion on this issue down into one simple paragraph without emotional wind up type language as I think I might agree with you?
Friend of the wife who would be as lefty liberal as they come but whoās daughter recently went through this had a big change in her opinion on it through personal circumstance
Have a case now in school where thereās been an about turn since the previous year but thankfully nothing had begun. Very difficult situation but thankfully it seems to have turned out okay.
Iāve outlined my thoughts on this in an honest manner but have been repeatedly accused of being anti trans each time.
The original medical understanding as outlined by experts in the field in the 70s-90s- was that if you treat the dysphoria then around 90% of people who suffer from dysphoria would eventually accept their body post puberty and for the most part would be same sex attracted.
We then saw this movement of anti-religious far left types spring up around the time Dawkins blew up and from here seemed to stem this gender ideology with itās core message being that nothing was binaryā¦ they became extremely militant and have cancelled many a medical expert in the area and the original prognosis was binned for more āgender affirmingā care.
This ācareā tho created far more problems than it solved. It ignored the dysphoria and treated the symptoms. It also endeded up ensnaring a lot of teenage / young adult autistic people into receiving care when they had never displayed any notion of gender dysphoria which typically begins quite young and is consistent. There was also a huge social contagion- particularly among teenage girls experiencing difficulties with changes to their bodiesā¦but again who had never displayed any signs of gender dysphoria.
When we use terms like - born in the wrong body - who does this serve? Itās impossible to be born in the wrong body and itās not anti trans so hold this view. You are your body, you donāt exist independent of it.
Most western countries have now u-turned back to the original way of treating gender dysphoria after a decade of a complete horror show. Treat the dysphoria and the majority will come out the other side. Thats not to take away from how hard dealing with dysphoria must be but i dont think breaking from reality, saying thereās more than male/female or you can be born in the wrong body, is doing any one any favours. Itās absolutely ludicrous that our legislators are even engaging with it not to mind passing laws on it.
The one thing many ideologues often pushed is the suicidal tendencies of those that suffer from dysphoriaā¦ as a kind of emotional blackmail to allow drug therapy or surgery. While the tendencies are indeed there, What they never disclose is that suicide tendencies remain as high in those that have transitionedā¦ because the dysphoria is still present and was never treated.
Thereās no such thing as trans really . Thereās certainly no such thing as a trans childā¦ and itās certainly not a gender. Thereās people who suffer from gender dysphoria - the rest is stuff pushed by a mixture of far left, wokey types and attention seeking parents that need their child to have some sort of special condition in life.
I do whole heartedly believe that those who canāt beat the dysphoria should be allowed live as they want. I just donāt believe i should be coerced into suspending science and logic so they can do so.
Thereās no need for you to say anything else. Youāre a denialist. Your sort of batshit ideology has catastrophic effects on real people.
No qualifying words are possible. Your ideology is inherently hostile to people of whatever age who find themselves in the middle of this predicament. Any attempt to qualify your words with bogus ācompassionā or āempathyā are a straight up lie.
Did i not say all of what you said two posts up?
. You started posting gibberish about a 3rd sex - just to feel relevant or to make yourself feel good?
I was asked my opinion on something and gave it. Itās a forum for discussion on topica issues. Itās not my fault you donāt have the intelligence to grasp whatās being said.
A lot of other complications and factors basically like with any real person but with regard to this issue alone the daughter came out as gay in her late teens. Mother has absolutely 100pc no issue with that obviously. She later announced at around 18 she was identifying as a boy and wanted to be known as boys name. The mother started using the boys name to my wife etc all the time so was on board with that.
However, the mother is now blaming a particular psychologist for pushing/guiding her down this road. She feels sheās just gay and on the spectrum but is now talking about surgery etc.
I think this is one where I am actually a centrist. There is such a thing as trans but not everyone whoās saying they are trans is actually. And many regret the road they went down when itās too late.