Ready made teams in massive professional clubs.
Would you ever fuck off. You have no knowledge of the situation whatsoever.
Once the players aged Dagliesh got exposed
He was handed a ridiculous list.
Thats not to say he did not do a great job thereafter.
But was he not with B team first?
Edit: yes he was
Ballyhale? Ya of course.
But thats not the point. Its about his decision not to learn the trade.
Bizarre lack of understanding of the difference between playing and coaching/managing.
A season
First 3 all coached at lower levels first.
There is a wonderful display of survivorship bias here.
I don’t believe it to be true either Kev. I know it’s fucking true
He never coached anyone whatsoever before the Dublin 21’s???
Ever?
Billy Morgan was player-coach of the Cork team back into the 1970s, mate. That’s how he got “experience”.
Mick O’Dwyer retired as a player in 1974 and was the manager of the Kerry team a few months later.
Roy Keane is another one. No coaching or managerial experience whatsoever, took over Sunderland after they’d lost their first five games of the 2006/07 season and won the division with them.
And you haven’t dealt with the Crossmaglen or Pat Gilroy examples. In fact I seem to remember you saying Gilroy was a good appointment, which makes your stance on Shefflin all the more laughable now.
Ballyhale Shamrocks are not a major sporting team. They’re a rural club hurling team. That you consider their greatest ever player has nothing to contribute as regards managing or coaching their team is so stupid as to not merit a response.
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Bilļy was coaching in school
Mick O’Dwyer was coaching at the club
McEntee was coaching in Crossmaglen before he worked with Senior team. Had coached possibly also in Dublin and University if memory serves.
Gilroy is an outlier. It happens. But he had managerial skills proven in another field. What has Sheflin done in that capacoty? Apples & Oranges.
You have not dealt with the mulitudes of people who failed miserably
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Exactly. A millions miles a level above what you’re deriding Shefflington for.
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The vast majority of managers fail, mate.
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Maybe he did the Round Towers u9s but he retired from inter county football in 2001 and him and Declan Darcy coached Dublin 21s in 2002 when Galway beat them in the final.
Brian Cody deserves a mention here too. His only coaching experience before becoming Kilkenny manager was with his club James Stephens Senior Team. He’s done ok for himself as a manager. Is he an outlier too?
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No. He had experience and he failed on the job
Whats so funny?
Em, in a debate where you’re arguing that Henry Shefflin shouldn’t be managing Ballyhale Shamrocks because he has no experience, you’re now arguing that it was fine that Brian Cody managed James Stephens with no experience.
Nice work.
One wonders where you think any prospective managers should ever get experience.
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