GAA Managerial Merrygoround Thread

[maurice_brown]

@myboyblue

@endakenny

Charging your own club is the lowest of the low.

I’d be flabbergasted to hear this was true. A monumentally cuntish act.

It’s just as cuntish as being ditched by your own after giving of your time and effort voluntarily, and then seen the club down the line go full on into fundraising to pay for the mercenary replacement.
Club management is a snakepit and the age of the volunteer is fucked.

[myboyblue]

@Gazthegeezer

I think if you are coaching your own club & you are proven you should be paid!!

if you were use to being paid

Well, well, well.

[TreatyStones]

Wasn’t that the issue with Ciaran & The Well?

[dodgy_keeper]

@maurice_brown

@myboyblue

@endakenny

Charging your own club is the lowest of the low.

I’d be flabbergasted to hear this was true. A monumentally cuntish act.

It’s just as cuntish as being ditched by your own after giving of your time and effort voluntarily, and then seen the club down the line go full on into fundraising to pay for the mercenary replacement.
Club management is a snakepit and the age of the volunteer is fucked.

Not just management, clubs are finding it harder and harder to get people to give their time whether as secretary, chairman or treasurer.

Even for clubs with small numbers it’s a lot of work (hassle) and people are increasingly not willing to put themselves through the hassle of it.

[myboyblue]

@dodgy_keeper

@maurice_brown

@myboyblue

@endakenny

Charging your own club is the lowest of the low.

I’d be flabbergasted to hear this was true. A monumentally cuntish act.

It’s just as cuntish as being ditched by your own after giving of your time and effort voluntarily, and then seen the club down the line go full on into fundraising to pay for the mercenary replacement.
Club management is a snakepit and the age of the volunteer is fucked.

Not just management, clubs are finding it harder and harder to get people to give their time whether as secretary, chairman or treasurer.

Even for clubs with small numbers it’s a lot of work (hassle) and people are increasingly not willing to put themselves through the hassle of it.

That’s the grandest. If lads don’t volunteer then the club dies and the players roll in next door. If lads aren’t willing to step up, then it’s not worth keeping the lights on. Fuck them.

[maurice_brown]

@myboyblue

That’s the grandest. If lads don’t volunteer then the club dies and the players roll in next door. If lads aren’t willing to step up, then it’s not worth keeping the lights on. Fuck them.

Reluctantly I have to agree with you

@myboyblue

That’s the grandest. If lads don’t volunteer then the club dies and the players roll in next door. If lads aren’t willing to step up, then it’s not worth keeping the lights on. Fuck them.

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@myboyblue

@dodgy_keeper

Not just management, clubs are finding it harder and harder to get people to give their time whether as secretary, chairman or treasurer.

Even for clubs with small numbers it’s a lot of work (hassle) and people are increasingly not willing to put themselves through the hassle of it.

That’s the grandest. If lads don’t volunteer then the club dies and the players roll in next door. If lads aren’t willing to step up, then it’s not worth keeping the lights on. Fuck them.

Yes its true @dodgy_keeper a thankless job. Been there.
@myboyblue I would have argued with you before that it’s easy fold your arms and say fuck it, but more recently I am agreeing with you.

[myboyblue]

Its really that simple. Some Clubs have incredible people keeping them going, but you’d ask to what end? I dont like to see it, but its simply not fair that the same people are obliged to always keep the place going.

Also, if these people do step down, you might be surprised who might actually step up then. But they wont step up if certain people are forever rotating the top seats.

[TreatyStones]

Agree it works both ways.

You’ve a lot of lads who think the club would fall down without them.

[Bisto]

@myboyblue

But they wont step up if certain people are forever rotating the top seats.

Spot on pal.

[maurice_brown]

@myboyblue

Its really that simple. Some Clubs have incredible people keeping them going, but you’d ask to what end? I dont like to see it, but its simply not fair that the same people are obliged to always keep the place going.

Also, if these people do step down, you might be surprised who might actually step up then. But they wont step up if certain people are forever rotating the top seats.

There’s a couple of types in this -

1. the clique that are happy to sit back and use the people with the perceived obligation to stay in place. These are the first to applaud them at a meeting and ridicule them in the pub.
2. the dog in the manger clique - this develops among officers over a period of time in office. This occurs typically when ranks are closed over a dispute in the time of service and an ‘us and them’ scenario occurs. They don’t want to let anyone else in but they are exhausted themselves in the job.
3. the naive and enthusiastic - these keep the blood flowing for a while. Used by both aforementioned cliques until realisation sets in.
   edit - 4. @TreatyStones
   You’ve a lot of lads who think the club would fall down without them.

Limitations to service in office really need to be enforced.

[carryharry]

@maurice_brown

mercenary replacement.

[carryharry]

@myboyblue

Also, if these people do step down, you might be surprised who might actually step up then. But they wont step up if certain people are forever rotating the top seats.

This.

This post sums up the nature of 90% of clubs. When new blood does volunteer you can be sure the lads who like the limelight chirp away in the background until the volunteer says why should I bother.

[Bisto]

Your time comes and your times goes …a lot of lads struggle with that …

[carryharry]

They seem affable enough until decisions don’t go there way.
Then the volunteer is a trouble maker, a blow in or just bad for the club.

I’ve seen it first hand & I’ll not be going back for seconds

[Aertel220]

@Arthur

Why bother money laundering Daniel kinahan can just pay his cousin to manage Longford slashers

I lolled at that one. There’d be a major emphasis on shooting drills in those sessions!

[gilgamboa]

@maurice_brown

would have argued with you before that it’s easy fold your arms and say fuck it, but more recently I am agreeing with you.

The biggest issue in most clubs is the people who get the most out of the club (the players) are the least likely to do anything bar train and play games. Converting one or two of them every year into mini coaches, administrators etc should be one of key goals in every club

[maurice_brown]

Agreed. But best of luck with that
At a recent AGM of a club in a reasonably sized town locally it was reported 16 in attendance. This included 1 player from the hurling team and the top table. Why they proceeded with the meeting is beyond me. It goes back to @myboyblue 's point.

[gilgamboa]

@maurice_brown

Agreed. But best of luck with that

Mentioned it before here. But with mini teams make part of the membership that the parents need to give back 3 hours or whatever over course of season. Lining pitch, making tea whatever… Parents tend to fall over themselves to get it out of the way… Many will then just stay involved as they get to know other parents… Its the first step is hardest.

Own club make parents bring sandwiches, buns etc for post game for minis. Rare a parent wouldn’t bring something and they get to know each other that way.

But of organsing in the approach but Iv seen it working and just need to be brazen enough to put it out there as non negotiable

[maurice_brown]

@gilgamboa

But with mini teams make part of the membership that the parents need to give back 3 hours or whatever over course of season.

Good angle yea. But all that is behind me now thank fuck.

[Pirlo]

@Smark

Is it not Dingle that Gizzy lives in now and not Tralee? Whatever carried him there ?

Lives in Annascaul.