Galway v Kilkenny All Ireland Hurling Final 2012

How was Canning nominated for MOTM ahead of Paul Murphy? That was ridiculous.

what type of freak is home in from of the TV watching American Football less than an hour after an all ireland?
I can understand lads heading off early with kids or if they need to get back down the coutry but unless you had a helicopter i presume you are living in Dublin,
Would you not think of maybe socialing with other fans after the game or go for a few hints or something where im sure most boozers would have SS on?

Galway made a hero out of Hogan in the second half with a succession of absolutely retarded clearances.

Shefflin was 100% correct to take his point from the penalty.

The point looked wide to me aswell.

This kind of freak. [points to self]
To each their own Mickee.
Why do you feel that the GAA is so intertwined with alcohol that anyone who doesn’t conform to your small town, intolerant, close minded, 1980s mentality is liable to be labelled a freak?
In my own case I have a number of considerations which may or may not include work, travel, emigration, finances, health, an enormous fondness for American Football, a possible gambing problem, a history of alcoholism, possibly being a necrophiliac and having an irrational fear of sponges.

I do my own thing. If I’m wrong on this I don’t want to be right.

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A big plus for Kilkenny yesterday has to be the near total lack of impact the Galway bench had on the game. In the lead up to Burke’s goal, Galway were drifting towards a gallant but seemingly inevitable defeat and there appeared to be nothing Cunningham could do about it. It was made all the worse by the fact that Galway were clearly running out of steam and wilting badly in the middle third. The pressure release for Kilkenny prompted Hogan, Walsh, and eventually even Fennelly to factor in the game in what was looking like a decisive fashion.

It must be said that Cunningham’s axe wielding last November is largely the cause of this. Of course you may argue that they mightn’t have been there yesterday if he hadn’t taken that hard line, and it is certainly true that he saw this as a long game wherein he had to build a new squad with young players, but he has scourged the squad of its emergency supplies of experience. They needed to change things early in the second half yesterday, and they really had precious little to call on. It’s likely to be a big factor the next day as well.

[quote=“Watch The Break, post: 705226”]A big plus for Kilkenny yesterday has to be the near total lack of impact the Galway bench had on the game. In the lead up to Burke’s goal, Galway were drifting towards a gallant but seemingly inevitable defeat and there appeared to be nothing Cunningham could do about it. It was made all the worse by the fact that Galway were clearly running out of steam and wilting badly in the middle third. The pressure release for Kilkenny prompted Hogan, Walsh, and eventually even Fennelly to factor in the game in what was looking like a decisive fashion.

It must be said that Cunningham’s axe wielding last November is largely the cause of this. Of course you may argue that they mightn’t have been there yesterday if he hadn’t taken that hard line, and it is certainly true that he saw this as a long game wherein he had to build a new squad with young players, but he has scourged the squad of its emergency supplies of experience. They needed to change things early in the second half yesterday, and they really had precious little to call on. It’s likely to be a big factor the next day as well.[/quote]

Kilkenny’s bench options are equally sparse though. Ruth was the only sub to come on yesterday with Cillian Buckley and maybe Richie Doyle the only other realistic options to come in. Couldn’t say that any would change the course of a game though. I would say that Colin Fennelly would have been withdrawn earlier if the options were there and Power and Fogarty might not have been far behind.

I dunno WTB, who do you think would have made a difference coming on?
Farragher?

Good point, I’ve repeatedly said their bench is an issue, but linking it to the wider purge is a point well made. Kavanagh was smiling i’d day when Hynes came off, Aidan Harte…Farragher…they are proven performers who may well have flourished in this new setup

Yeah but they were on top in the second half, hannibal, even if a few lads weren’t making an impact. Galway were drowning and their first sub was a lad who hasn’t played well since the Offaly game and was taken off after 8 minutes. When it came to the crunch in 2010, Tipp replaced their midfield, two of their half-backline, and one of their forwards to get them over the line.

Tipp also had a cutting edge to their attack in the second half and scored 3-7 in that period.
Galway managed 1-4 yesterday in the second half. Galway seemed happy to sit back and allow Kilkenny on to them.
Tipp took the fight to Kilkenny and never relented.

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Yeah but they were on top in the second half, hannibal, even if a few lads weren’t making an impact. Galway were drowning and their first sub was a lad who hasn’t played well since the Offaly game and was taken off after 8 minutes. When it came to the crunch in 2010, Tipp replaced their midfield, two of their half-backline, and one of their forwards to get them over the line.[/quote]

I agree with you on the paucity of options for Galway. Indeed most of their second half performances in championship have been relatively poor, possibly due to the lack of quality fresh legs to keep the tempo up.

However i think that had Kilkenny better options yesterday they would have pulled away. Rice was a loss yesterday, not alone because of his ability but his absence also forced Cody to play all his cards from the start. Had the likes of Richie Hogan or Fogarty come on with 15 mins to go they could have tipped the balance in Kk’s favour.

In the first half i thought Walsh, Tyrell, Hogan and especially JJ all looked really slow and leg weary. This was when Galways attacking play was focussed and the deliveries were good. When the ball started to go high, and all the time, these deficiencies were simply not exposed in the 2nd period, the one good cross ball from Donnellan led to the 2nd goal. Galway definitely have a serious adv in this dept, and it should ensure KK are not able to dispatch them early. Will almost def go down to the final 10mins where substitutions will be crucial.

i underestimated Galways defense, they held firm twice now…amazing progression from last year

Tipp scored 1-4 or so in the last few minutes or so though. They went almost 20 minutes without a score til Callinan came on and popped over a couple of points

Once Galway got their second goal yesterday the whole team dropped back. They had nobody inside I’d say the Kilkenny 45 for the puck out. It was almost guerrilla warfare. Strange mentality to have when you have just taken a goal lead.

For those who were at the game … did the Kilkenny backs stick rigidly to their assigned forward? It looked like Tommy Walsh was playing corner-back and Paul Murphy wing-back for a lot of the game. Same on the other side, it was hard to call just what position Jackie Tyrell was taking as he turned up everywhere. Jackie is not the best distributor and it would suit the opposition to have him as the clearing defender.

I also think the Kilkenny forwards have les options or else have simply stopped the line rotations (eg. Brennan out, Larkin in/out, Power out, Henry in/out). They did not do it against Limerick and I have not seen it in the semi or final other than a switch was required such as Henry to 11.

Kilkenny forwards were moving a good bit especially in the first half.
Larkin, Henry and Power were moving constantly with each other.

So to my backup point. Duignan is a useless cat-loving excuse for an analyst. He could not tell you what was happening in the parade let alone what was happening off camera in the match.

Fogarty and Fennelly do appear a bit one-dimensional to fit into the forward-line. Corner forward on their own side or nothing.