General Election 2016

Thereā€™s every incentive for people to work. This is a myth that has been consistently and deliberately peddled by the likes of @Tim_Riggins and in an attempt to demonise the unemployed for ideological purposes, an all too predictable case of victim blaming.

The right love doing that.

SF are abstentionist from Westminister.

The NI Assembly only came into being in 1998. It was only after the GFA that the republican movement had decided to turn its attention to politics and when it did it wasnā€™t long taking the nationalist vote with them. Their track record of sacrifice for the cause of the people is the reason they are the biggest national party in the north, there was no baggage to the nationalist in the O6 to turn to SF as some down south would claim. That is because these people lived through the conflict and they knew the things the Provos did which may have been wrong in a moral sense were completely justifiable at that time of being.

You are talking about Eoin Oā€™Duffy in the 1930s who was kicked out as leader of Fine Gael after it all came a bit embarrassing. You are trying to use that to claim that FG are, in the here and now, right wing.

I am saying that Gerry Adams et al are reformed fascists in the here and now. They murdered people.

Thereā€™s a world of difference.

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Tim struggling badly with the basics of fascism.

2 questions @Sidney

What are the Left parties policies re corporation tax?

What income tax should the average fella who earns 45k pay?

Good tactic Nembo, ignore the cold hard fact that Sinn Fein turned their head to the ballot box after Bobby Sands. A savage rewriting of SF history there.

That they finally accepted that democracy was a path, with Martin McGuinness reforming his own previous views on the matter.

The majority of Sinn FƩin finally recognised the legitimacy of the DƔil in 1986.

They ran in Westminister elections. They were outperformed by the SDLP. They were abstentionist then and are abstentionist now, but get the majority of votes now. After they put the guns down.

The ESRI - a great bunch of lads.

Anything they say should be taken with a pinch of salt. Fucking bullshit merchant economists.

The reality that @Tim_Riggins canā€™t accept.

Do you think the current taxation for people on 45k is fair?

I wouldnā€™t imagine SF proposed policies would have much of an impact (positive or negative) for middle income earners. It will have positive impacts for low income workers at the expense of high income earners.

What is your opinion of the founding members of Fianna FƔil and the current rump called Sinn FƩin ignoring democracy? All the name of Nationialism. Both groups rejecting Marxism.

I would call that pretty facist but apparently you had to have a funny salute for that to he the case.

Iā€™m not the one ignoring anything mate, what is patently obvious is that you have a complete ignorance of the political system of the O6. That should stop you making comment.

Thatā€™s my point though mate.

As a strong SF supprter which you are, you still have to ā€œimagineā€ what there effective taxation would be on that ordinary working person.

For SF to kick on and get into power in the Republic, they need to outline their policies properly imo.

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Do you think the current taxation for people on 45k is fair?

I wouldnā€™t imagine SF proposed policies would have much of an impact (positive or negative) for middle income earners. It will have positive impacts for low income workers at the expense of high income earners.
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I think they have outlined their policies properly, the problem is you probably spend too much time listening to right wing media propaganda.

What do you be listening to then if you canā€™t answer me that simple question?

Itā€™s bollocks Nembo. Just as much as Noonanā€™s talk of abolishing the USC is.

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For SF to kick on, Adams needs to go and anyone else with links to the IRA . That is the only hope they have of becoming anyway transfer friendly to the electorate

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I donā€™t know any partyā€™s specific policies apart from their USC policies.

What are FG/FF/Labour going to do for the guy on 45k?

Great response, full of facts.

Did Sinn Fein run candidates pre Bobby Sands? Yes or no.

This is very well documented.

According to your perversion of history here, SF just stumbled into the GFA.

No, they donā€™t.

Theyā€™re establishing a big stranglehold in the border counties now and this election is a big chance for them to break the Labour stranglehold on the working class areas?

Bobby Sands didnā€™t run as a candidate for SF.