Just stop with the lies lad.
What about the child abuse in wexford mate ?
He did fuck all at best and at worst actually intervened to reverse the decision of social services and stop the child from being removed from the foster home.
His only defence is that he doesnât remember the case. The dog ate my homework and all that.
This from the same man who persecuted a dying woman as she tried to assert her rights in court. Does he remember that?
What would you have expected him to do? Do you know how Ministers deal with the 100s of letters they receive on a monthly basis on individual issues?
Ever hear of collective cabinet responsibility? Anyway while they were all drummed out of their parties, they were not really isolated as evidenced by Lowryâs note to enda and Rambo pitching at the crook haugheys state funeral and most importantly none of them served a day in jail except for contempt.
As for child abuse, FFFGLAB have been in power while wholesale child rape was going on in state institution when the children were in the care of the state. Amazing that in a dail full of teachers and lawyers that not a single one of them knew what was going on while the dogs in the street knew.
FFFGLAB have gotten away with it, Lowryâs still in the dail, Bertie et Al have mega pensions, charlie gets a state funeral and Kathleen lynch hires aman convicted of murder ironically by the SCC as her assistant.
Collective cabinet responsibility for what exactly? I would think persons being kicked out of a political party is sending a message. If you are talking about collective responsibility for the child sex allegations, I think most in Ireland share in that and particularly the political parties. Answer this honestly though, would Enda Kenny, Joan Burton or Martin have gotten away with the individual actions of Gerry Adams in relation to a sibling?
Ray Burke did serve prison time for tax evasion btw.
Lowry being in the DĂĄil is nothing to do with FG/Labour/FF. They run candidates there. It is the voters of that constituency who cast votes. What a farcical comment.
On pensions - I agree. Iâm not happy with it. Iâm not happy with DOB still being given the time of day by FG either. It isnât right, it isnât any worse than any other western country, however.
Does that compare to SF endorsing armed robbers and murderers. What did you think about the murder of McCabe and SF attempting to have it treated as GFA case? I donât see any other political party in the western world where a member of parliament could rock up to prison to collect that person and get away with it. Where a standing ovation would be made for letters from jail from those criminals at a party conference. Even the most contemptible of Rastoolers must realise that in 1986 the Provos accepted DĂĄil Ăireann and this State. They then went out and endorsed the robbery from a state institution and murder of a police officer of the same state 10 years later. If Michael Noonanâs treatment of the Hep C case or FGâs continued association with DOB can be brought up, then it is more than justified to keep bringing that up.
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It took the State eight years to respond to the questions raised about the Garda investigation of Fr Jim Grennan in Monageer which vanished without trace.
A Fine Gael county councillor, Garry OâHalloran, persistently demanded answers at meetings of the South Eastern Health Board where he encountered an attitude of âzero assistanceâ.
On a number of occasions, health board meetings ended with mass walks-outs by councillors and OâHalloran has said that he was warned by colleagues in the margins of meetings to lay off the topic.
When he accompanied victims of sexual assault by priests to a Fine Gael ard fheis in Dublin for an arranged meeting with the Health Minister, Michael Noonan, it was the junior minister, Austin Currie, who met the delegation instead.
Contrary to the belief with which OâHalloran left the meeting - that Currie had given an undertaking to establish an inquiry into the health boardâs response to abuse allegations - the junior minister subsequently pronounced that there was nothing to investigate.
Garry OâHalloran eventually resigned from Fine Gael and from elected politics in total frustration.
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I would have expected him not to intervene to reverse the decision of social services, for a start.
It was not a routine letter. It was in relation to a case in which there was a serious allegation of abuse. One would tend to remember such a thing. Iâd have expected him at the very least to make sure the matter was followed up and not âforget about itâ.
Enda Kenny had no trouble in parading an alleged rape victim in front of the national media at short notice when he thought he could score political points.
Of course I was mistaken. SF do want the USC abolished. They may say otherwise but âeffectivelyâ itâs the same thing. Their policies are identical to everyone else apart from those annoying differences that are best ignored. They just promise handouts, though their manifesto may state otherwise. It couldnât possibly be that you were talking through your hole. Authoritatively, but through your hole.
Hang on a second here, Sid, a minute ago he did ânothingâ. Then you said may have done something which âat worstâ negatively effecting the situation, implying that he may have intervened on behalf of the father and now you are saying it as a matter of fact.
Michael Noonan got someone to refer it to the Board responsible. The MOH would receive hundreds of letters a month on individual cases. When you are in a position like that you have to trust the system beneath you, you cannot investigate each and every case.
Do you have evidence that he went in and reversed the decision of the social services? You are just making stuff up now.
Rocko, you began by saying that I said they wanted it abolished. I said that their % of public support are the type of people who want things such as USC cut (which SF are proposing) and no water charges. I actually never made any specific comment on SFâs policies, just the type of voter they are going for.
Are you genuinely claiming that anything SF are proposing is revolutionary? All they are proposing is a further burden on upper bracket tax payers. This is something which Labour proposed in 2011 and which FF are proposing now. Heck, Renua are proposing something revolutionary with tax. SF are just talking the same game everyone has for years.
Calling them âanti establishmentâ and comparing them to Trump/Sanders as @Watch_The_Break did is laughable. My contention was that they are going for a soft vote which Labour won last time.
SO YOU WIL; VOTE IRA:astonished:
Clare Daly in the Dail said Noonan was lobbied by the foster father in question and that the decision of the social services was reversed.
Clare Daly is a principled politician and is highly unlikely to have made such a story up, and highly unlikely to have said what she did unless she had solid information.
You have nothing to back this up.
Sinn Fein genuinely want to work for a united socialist ireland. If you thinks fg ff labour want this then you are deluded. Thatâs a fair bit of difference between policies.
Fg fg labour are virtually identical in terms of their policies.
i appreciate people may be grieving the loss of justice antonio scalia but lashing out at Sinn Fein wonât make the hurting stop.
Serious soft-soap interview with Micheal Martin in the Sindo today. Other articles very much give a sense of FF being confident theyâre well ahead of their poll figures.
Yeah those socialists who claim they support 12.5% CT down south and who have worked for a lower rate up north.
FFS.
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Fuck off with that bull
Unfortunately for Gerry, he canât kneecap the interviewer.
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There is no party!called IRA running in the election, pal.