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If she was causing enough disturbances and enough people were behind you they’d move her. Get onto your local FF shitehawk, and promise him a street full of votes

Why is it always the Governments fault? Is it beyond belief that if you come from a poor family that you can better yourself?
It is inbred in some families to continue the trend of social welfare, medical cards etc.
At what stage is personal responsibility ever considered? It’s all too easy to say it’s always a Governments fault for bad planning when free schooling for those who need it is there.
What about the parents that don’t give two fucks whether their kids attend school, cause disturbances to those going about their business etc?

At what stage does having the wherewithal to make yourself better not involve the Government?

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Have been, He’s a family friend and can’t do anything apart from getting onto the housing officer and writing letters etc. As Dodgy says it would be political suicide and you could end up with worse😩

Cop on lad, that doesn’t happen. It’s an urban myth

It does. I’ve no reason to make this up. Going back to the boom when the likes of Dell were desperate for workers all of this family were still signing on.

Stop being an argumentative prick for the sake of it. Cases like the above are commonplace.

Cop on now. Your spreading fake news.

You’re.

It does happen. Ignore if you want.

You’ve missed something. :wink:

The biggest change that could be made in this country is a shit load of money into pre-school. If you do that then you equalise outcomes from
education. The problem for kids from disadvantaged areas/homes is they go to school and have literally never held a book. They are catching up from day one and never do.

Education properly targeted and resourced is
biggest tool of change. It worked for a different generation with free secondary and third level in demographics who valued it. If they focused on pre school we would see the benefits in ten to 15 years in that demographic who have been bypassed.

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In many of these cases we are dealing with people who have no interest in bettering themselves. How does the government tackle that?
And yes, years of neglect and poor planning threw up slums in cities all over the country. Dev and his lot didn’t give a single fuck about the urban poor for generations… We’re talking about 4/5/6 generations of poverty - how do you expect such families to just turn around and change all they’ve ever known? There will always be people who’ll pull themselves out of it and strive for more, but you’ll equally have as many that will stay welded to the way of life they’ve only ever known.

The government think integration is the way to go, but it could be a couple of generations fir that to work and the likes of Bod has to pay the price…

But you simply can’t deny that years of neglect have played their part here.

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Guys, if you’re disgusted with people milking the system then don’t vote for the party of Maria Bailey and Alan Farrell.

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Totally agree reduce cash payments to the likes of the example I cited above and reallocate the resources to the kids to give them real chance of breaking the cycle. Otherwise it’s more of the same into perpetuity.

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Pal, it’s not just rampant in Cities.

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no, you’re right…the breaking down of rural Ireland is another story. But a lot of those being integrated are from urban areas.

Very hard if there is no focus at home . No matter what the state put in . Any where there is good education attainment in a disadvantaged area there is nearly invariably always input at home .

All I’m hearing in this Election is more social houses, are you telling me it will lead to more life dolers for generations to come?

I’ve done a bit of work with them but would love to see something like this adopted by Government and rolled out nationally

https://www.ncirl.ie/About/Early-Learning-Initiative/Our-Programmes

What we forget is we are where we are because our parents valued education. Some people don’t have that but these programmes
work to impart that and then the benefits flow

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The programme I mentioned above can teach that to parents. It’s a key message. Parents who never had it when they were kids need to
learn it.

As a commentary on society, I would focus more on the rigging of the system to allow a small amount of people to hold extortionate levels of wealth. There is no way such a situation can be justified and is the single biggest scandal in the modern day West.

I saw something recently to say that in the last 10 years (a lot of which has been recession) the number of billionaires has doubled to 2,100 and they hold more wealth than 4 billion people combined. And us in this country bend over for them like no other.

We’ve very few life dolers. We sit at 1.4%

Social housing doesn’t always mean free council houses you little fucker… Social, can and should mean affordable houses.