Heās very soft on anti-Semitism too. All the right wing nut jobs on this forum are.
Yet the same right wing nutters like @anon7035031 and @TheUlteriorMotive screamā anti-Semiteā when Israel is condemned by someone
And hereās how they do it. Israel calls itself a Jewish state, the Jewish state. That is to say that for the Israeli government, the all powerful dominance of Jews is completely indivisible from and essential to the identity of Israel.
So if you oppose Israeli policies and actions, by definition that makes you an anti-Semite, at least according to them, because you are opposing of the policies and actions of the Jewish state.
Now anybody who follows the Israel-Palestine situation in even a cursory manner knows that no two state solution is possible because of Israelās massive, decades long campaign of invasion of the West Bank and colonial settlement building. Yet thatās an elephant in the room nobody must ever mention.
Itās a case of statinā the bleedinā obvious that the only feasible chance of a morally just settlement is some form of one state arrangement perhaps of a federal nature like Bosnia.
Israel has no interest in a two-state settlement, because it wants control over the West Bank. Israel has no interest in a one state settlement, because that would have to mean equal rights for all Palestinians.
Yet if you state that you are in favour of a one state plan or even open to discussing such, you have fallen foul of the most vacuous canard around - you ādeny Israelās right to existā, and are therefore an anti-Semite, ie. anybody who recognises reality is āan anti-Semiteā.
Thatās the Kafkaesque stategy they employ.
On the other hand they routinely airbrush real anti-Semitism of the sort that led to the Holocaust, as long as you support the Israeli government, and anti-Semites the world over are happy to do that.
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Itās a truly bizarre logic ā they tell us that Israel exists now and thereās no point looking back on what happened, to look forward ā the same lads will then bounce into an Irish politics thread and start pointing out what SF did in the past.
I think there is a massive class element to it. Anything that gets a sort of official seal of approval, contemporaneousy or retrospectively, from the ārespectableā classes, no matter how morally unjust, is grand.
What they really hate is the idea of liberation to create a more just, more equal society. Any juxtaposition of socialism with liberation really gets their goat.
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Nail. Head. Offft.
At least I donāt celebrate the murder of an Irish policeman out doing his job, you insufferable cunt.
You know fuck all about Israel, like most contemporary subjects. Itās quite possible to condemn Israeli actions towards the Palestinians, as I do, and also support Israelās right to exist and defend itself against attack. Those doing the attacking since the foundation of Israel are actual fascists who would like to see nothing else than the genocide of the entire Jewish people. Yet you have Corbynistas on here who support said fascism, which of course just exposes the fact that they passionately hate Jews and regret some were allowed live during the last attempt by Europe to exterminate them.
I thought you were better than this, but youāre not, just another waste of what was at one point a good brain.
Iāve never celebrated the murder of anyone - thatās a disgusting accusation.
Iāve already mopped the floor with you on Israel onceā¦ but āthe foundationā of Israel - Jesus wept, you make it sound like the opening of a supermarket. It was a confiscation thatās still going on today - itās indefensible. - The rest of your diatribe is hyperbole.
Your last point is very telling ā youāre definitely on the scale, just not sure if itās stage 3 or 4. But youāre rattled.
Your said Jerry McCabe got what was coming to him. Thatās the kind of comment you get from RAstooler pretend Republicans like yourself and the fascist loon from Tyrone.
You would find very few actual Republicans who would say McCabe got what was coming to him. Engaging with Irish security forces was against IRA policy, the lad involved was totally in the wrong.
It was fairly obvious I was being facetious.
Sure you said the two lads at Soloheadbeg got what was coming to them.
Backtrack accepted.
Iāve been very consistent with my views here for months , even years ā Iām not a man of violenceā¦ You just have a gang here waiting to pounce on anything SF - itās pathetic really.
Agree with that a chara, and Iām not one of them. SF are a legitimate political party and have put the wind up FF in particular. FG donāt care too much as they will emerge from this period in Irish history fairly unscathed while FF will become irrelevant and their remnants likely absorbed by SF.
Thanks for that, comrade.
Our laughter will be the revenge of our children.
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FFS lad
Our revenge will be the laughter of our children.
Ah Arthur ā¦ come on.
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Our children will be the revenge of our laughter.
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Our childer will be laughing with revenge
Our revenge will be laughing at your children.
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