General Election 2020 Part 2

What the fuck is the Anglo American economic model? The US has much more in common with Northern Europe in terms of work ethic and has no barriers to entry for those who have the ideas and will to build businesses. So what if they make lots of money doing so, would the world be better off without them? Who do you think drives economic growth and hires people? Overpaid footballers?

The Nordic model works because you have a very homogenous population who share the same values, commitment to endeavor, honesty and a government that is held accountable. The Nordic countries ironically are also almost 100% white, the very thing you think is wrong with western societies. Or is it white people in Scandinavia good, white people elsewhere bad?

Leftists love the Nordic model forgetting these are examples of the most successful capitalist countries. There are plenty rich people in the Nordic countries.

The fundamental problem with Ireland is there is no accountability in government. Throwing more money at the HSE won’t solve its problems. It has to be ripped apart top to bottom and an accountable structure put in place. That involves taking on the unions who encourage incompetence. The biggest failing of successive FFG governments is not rebuilding the 19th century civil service. Maybe SF can, we will see.

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I had a great chat at work today. Sinn Fein will take over the Courts and replace the President of the High Court with a kangaroo. The courts will be liquidated and people who don’t pay their bills will get kneecappings. There will be men with balaclavas sitting at the cabinet table. Thank God they have a friend like me who they can really talk to and say how they feel. I told them Sinn Fein must BUILD OR DIE.

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Do you word in a mental asylum?

Jesus christ. So now ethnic homogeneity is apparently a factor in building a prosperous more equal society, or so you say. And then you lump the US, the world’s most ethnically diverse country, in with the Nordic countries.

These are the same “ethnically homogenous” Nordic countries who nutcase far right US commentators claim are the rape capitals of the world. :laughing:

If I wanted to read racist rot by Stefan Molyneux I would. I don’t, thanks.

Nail on head

Why would FG give C & S to a left coalition which they would say stands opposite their values. They have a ready made excuse that the public have reduced them to 3rd largest party from 76 seats in 2011, ie no mandate to be involved

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After the electorate response to the last confidence and supply, “responsible” though it was, I don’t think any party will be going near it for a while.

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Well they and FF engaged in confidence and supply. Why don’t they form a government now? Because it would be very easy.

FF have done their time under C&S and FG just wont do it. It causes contamination.

In the short term another election would probably help SF with seats but that is before a very driven media campaign to challenge them radically on their policies…

And the likelihood FF and FG will have changed up leadership.

It wasn’t economic. It was a IRA cell who had bombed a gas plant a month before. They bombed the town with two small bombs in bins.

It wasn’t a spectacular like the other two, or like Canary Wharf or Manchester. It was planted to cause disruption and keep the fight up, put it up to the brits etc, it wasn’t an economic target.

The public have voted for change, ie no more FG. Big question is how would the public view a second election. The big 3 are reluctant to form a govt with each other.

So we’re getting to the nub of it. It’s all about electoral protection.

FG could actually do alright from a confidence and supply arrangement with the left. If it goes tits up as FG and FF people say it would, they’d have at least showed themselves to be open to dealing with SF and the left without having to be part of it officially.

FF aren’t going to do any better under another leader with the possible exception of O’Callaghan. And O’Callaghan is out of step politically. Martin was much more in step politically.

Why would they prop up a government that they fundamentally disagree with on most things? Wouldn’t make sense

@tallback gave out about SF not going into Westminster for putting party ahead of the good of Ireland

Listen to him now y’all

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Whe I see Damien English on television, I immediately see a man who’s on his second pint in the Cat and Cage in June 1991 and furiously debating what he’d just seen in one of the Dublin-Meath draws.

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Because they would say it has a mandate and because the country needs a government.

If they want to go the “responsible” path there’s always coalition with Fianna Fail.

You could call it electoral protection, Id say they’re both happy enough to sit back now in opposition wait for the dominos to fall and grab the sweeping brush.

This stage isnt so much about governing or leading the country. Its about playing a game of chess and is party-driven. FF and FG both got in or around the same number of seats as SF having taken a battering. Their own vote made that possible and they risk losing it or a part of it by going into coalition with SF.

Both will change up leader in my opinion and both will go back to grass roots in the coming weeks and months to get a better sense of direction.

SF are actually better off getting another election in the next 6 months…the longer it goes on Im not so sure.

I keep expecting Damien English to say something like “Meck Leyens is some man all the sayame isn’t he…Maaauhrtin O’Connell was immanse in the second haulf, so he was, jaaaysus what a man! The Dubs must be feckin’ sickened so dee aauuuhh. They’ll nevah beat this Mayd taym!”

How in the name of jesus does Sean haughey keep getting elected? Did he even make a statement in the last Dail? Hard to believe he was the spokesperson for foreign affairs and trade.