General Election 2020 Part 2

[maroonandwhite]

Why would they back up FF? They seem determined to stay out. Winter is coming.

[anon61878697]

Who knows … they spent weeks telling us it’s only half time in Brexit tho, so their own words might come back on them… They could always pull the plug on Martin when things arent working and look to seize back a lot of the middle vote… it’s not as if they are a million miles behind SF/FF in stats or seats.

[pudns]

ok I’ll ask again. Is there a time limit or what? Who calls second election if gov can’t be formed?

[Dziekanowski]

@myboyblue

We’re in a serious game of knifey spoony here at the moment.

You can’t play senior hurling with knives or spoons. Well, perhaps knives in the Galway seenur horling champinchip.

[anon61878697]

Dail commences next week.

[Copper_pipe]

@Copper_pipe

Micheál Martin is going to try and form a coaltion with FG and some independents. This may extend to the Green Party.

Charge!

[Julio_Geordio]

@pudns

ok I’ll ask again. Is there a time limit or what? Who calls second election if gov can’t be formed?

There is no law saying there’s a certain time limit. Mickey D will have to call it again if no party can find an agreement but they could go round and round for months if nessecary. Leo is still in charge until a new Government is formed

[tallback]

@pudns

ok I’ll ask again. Is there a time limit or what? Who calls second election if gov can’t be formed?

Interesting Irish Times podcast on this during the week. Basically until a new Taoiseach is elected, only Leo can call a second election.

I personally think FG would be mad to go in with FF - it would just leave the door open for SF to make even bigger gains.

[TreatyStones]

@anon67715551 why did FF try to put an end to the PR system in the 60s

[pudns]

If FFG were to go in together,I wonder would they change anything. People want change. Would they do things differently? What would the mood of the public be?

[Arthur]

@mickee321

…be emphatically nothis goes against the narrative of the housing crisis but there is absolutely no incentive to rent property if you are still paying a mortgage on it - your best option now is to sell ( if you can ensure parity depending on when it was purchased)christ lads - how fucking naive are ye?

Im a landlord and despite the rent I charge being well below market rate it still comfortably covers my mortgage. The surplus probably just about fails to cover my tax bill and management fee but for a very small net loss every year I will have an asset worth around 250k in approx 20 years time.
Is there a downside I’m missing?

[Julio_Geordio]

@TreatyStones

@Boxtyeater why did FF try to put an end to the PR system in the 60s

To stop people electing the likes of SF. If they’d only listened

[myboyblue]

Ah lads would be fierce confused. SF would have won the election, yet wouldnt be in power. I could see water charge type protests on the streets.

[mickee321]

@Arthur

@mickee321

…be emphatically nothis goes against the narrative of the housing crisis but there is absolutely no incentive to rent property if you are still paying a mortgage on it - your best option now is to sell ( if you can ensure parity depending on when it was purchased)christ lads - how fucking naive are ye?

Im a landlord and despite the rent I charge being well below market rate it still comfortably covers my mortgage. The surplus probably just about fails to cover my tax bill and management fee but for a very small net loss every year I will have an asset worth around 250k in approx 20 years time.
Is there a downside I’m missing?

not in your case
but my rent post tax dosent come close

PS love the “Im a Landlord” opening … (hastag gaffs)

[anon7035031]

It’s a huge risk for them. If they cobble something together they have to solve the housing and health crises quickly as we know SF are going to do this if they enter government. However, keeping SF out of government and then failing at such efforts would result in a SF majority government for the next generation.

[Dziekanowski]

@TreatyStones

@Boxtyeater why did FF try to put an end to the PR system in the 60s

Fianna Fail tried to put an end to PR and tried to put an end to the election count process through the introduction of electronic voting machines. Anybody who tries to destroy the Irish election count, not once but twice, is not to be trusted.

[farmerinthecity]

I think there is a sizeable bunch of TDs within FF and FG who still are so arrogant and out of touch that they don’t know how to be strategic.

If a government is formed without SF I would predict protests on the streets. And no one does protests like SF.

[farmerinthecity]

@Dziekanowski

electronic voting machines

I actually thought about them during the election.

Still stored away, running up a significant chunk of costs no doubt.

[Julio_Geordio]

FF are being extremely short sighted here you’d feel. They are appeasing the hardcore FFers at the expense of everyone else, and the hard core of FF is dying off at a rate of knots.

[TreatyStones]

@farmerinthecity

I actually thought about them during the election.

Still stored away, running up a significant chunk of costs no doubt.

No, they were sold off for a few pence a couple of years ago