Fenlon was some man for a sideline cut in fairness to himā¦John Troy of Offaly was another very underrated ground hurler, had some pull of a ballā¦
Unlike Mike Houlahan and John Power who would just pull on their men
Itās ok Locke, I have this oneā¦
John Power is as much a saint as Dorothy Mantooth!
Take it back!
Take it baaaack!
[Runs away sobbing]
[quote=āThe Pukeā]Fair enough, I am talking about Flannans and the effect it has had on underage hurling in Clare over the last 10 years KIB man, as I stated in my original postā¦
Take a look at the likes of Bernard Gaffney and Andrew Quinn these daysā¦Both were regarded as the next big things in Clare hurling when they were winning hartys with Flannansā¦[/quote]
Both good winter hurlers that have had injury problems. Neither has the pace to every really make it as the next Jamesie Oā Connor iām afraid. Does the Honan lad fall into the same category?
[quote=āBandageā]
As an aside, I was watching this Sport Matters thing on Setanta last night and they were reminiscing about how hurlingās revolution in the 1990s with Offaly, Clare, Wexford and Limerick all contesting finals at the expense of the traditional super-powers. Itās actually mad to think Offaly beat Kilkenny by 11 points in the 1995 Leinster Final.[/quote]
Saw it Bandageā¦some point from Ciaran Carey there against the savagesā¦Is it the Greatest ever? Limerick should have taken at least one AI there while the Holy Trinity of the game were in a slumber.
Guinness got a raw deal out of that programme I thought.
[quote=āMacā]Ruth was slow but had the brain to make up for it. Very rarely got cleaned out. Agree Mitch Jordan wasnāt great but on his day he was worth 5 or 6 points. DOC gets a lot of criticism, especially from fine weather supporters that frequent this forum and its hard to see how you can say that someone whoās been an ever present in an inter-county team for the best part of 8 years is shit?
Rory Mac was too small for half his positions. Fenlon didnt have to do a lot of running to have an influence. The best ground hurler Iāve ever seen play in person.[/quote]
Was Ruth not back at home in Enniscorthy before the Leinster final had finished one year. Tony Carmody completely annihilated him one day in Croke Park too and he should have been able for him. Id love to know a time in a championship game that Mitch Jordan scored five or six points from play. Iāll let Art let rip on DOC. He was ok against Waterford last year tho. Fenlon was a brilliant hurler Iām not disagreeing with that.
Honan is the opposite to a winter hurler, doesnāt suit himā¦He went to Ard Scoil Ris and had decent coaching at both school and club levelā¦He is still only 18 and will be a fantastic hurler in years to comeā¦No lack of pace with him, although I would be more worried about his love of basketball and the scholarship he was offered to go to Americaā¦
Munster minor hurler of the year after all :rolleyes:
Yeah forgot about that one, he took half the wall of the Hogan Stand Tunnel home with him too. Iāll rephrase āhe very rarely got cleaned out while playing in his best position in the half back lineā.
in his last year and being shafted by being played full back on Shefflin when he isnt a full back. Ruth was a centre back, and a good one at that. To be remembered for that game isnt a good reflection on him as I for one wouldnt blame him for his performance in the first 15 mins. shouldnt have been put in that position.
And whats usually forgotten was that Ruth came out against Tipp in the next game and played one of the best games of his life at Centre Back with Rossi back at full back.
[quote=āThe Pukeā]Fenlon was some man for a sideline cut in fairness to himā¦John Troy of Offaly was another very underrated ground hurler, had some pull of a ballā¦
Unlike Mike Houlahan and John Power who would just pull on their men[/quote]
donāt think Troy was ever underrated Pukeyā¦rated very highly by many as having magic in his wristsā¦now his fitness and body fat percentage might have raised eyebrowsā¦
Maybe it just me scumpot but I normally when people talk about that offaly team from the mid-late 90s it is the likes of Whelahan, Pilkington, the Dooleys and Kinahan who come to mindā¦I agree Troy was a smashing hurler, in what was an exceptionally skillful offaly sideā¦
Pretty sure Mitch scored 1-4 or 1-5 or something similar v Cork in 03. His best year Iād say, nominated for an All Star the same year.
Ruth was the only man able for Shefflin on the 40. But yeah he was slow in the legs, quick in the brain.
Fenlon was still going strong in 2003 and was good for another couple of years after that - a great hurler. I didnāt rate Mitch Jordan for large chunks of his inter-county career but he was chipping in with lots of scores that season. Larry Oā would have been 36 and was past it but was trying his heart out in fairness to him. Larry Murphy always looked older than he was - he would only have been around 31 in 2003, I think.
Rory Mallon was mentioned on another post. He went to America a few years ago. I canāt even remember the year myself (it may have been 2003 too) I think he played a full league campaign and then announced his departure on the eve of the championship, ala Richie Kehoe last year (must be a Faythe Harriers thing). He was over there for a good while and then I heard he was back and living in Galway. Then he was meant to be back in the US and then he was meant to be home again.
Wexford town traditionally had 4 football clubs (Sarsfields, St Johnās Volunteers, St Maryās Maudlintown and St Josephās), 1 hurling club (Faythe Harriers) and 1 shambolic/scumbag dual club (Clonard). So Faythe Harriers team-mates would often be playing against each other in town football derbies. Anyway, a few lads involved in the Vols decided to set up a hurling arm to the club a couple of years back and some Harriers players defected to them. Rory Mallon transferred across but I donāt think heās been around to play with them. Nicky Lambert also moved to them and they would have been playing Junior D hurling at home last year. Nicky was captain of the Wexford U21 team that lost that U21 final to Limerick in 2001 and was also called up to the senior team that year. Now, heās playing Junior D hurling at the age of 28/29. Gas.
I think the day is gone when we would suggest either of them would ever be a Jamsie O Connor. Colin Ryan and Honan the two big hopes at the minute. Big fan of Johnny Clancy but his striking and shooting a long way off what they need to be. Think he definitely has a couple of huge championship games in him though.
I actually think Clancy is the one Clare forward you can rely upon to tap over easy chances. He is genuinely skillful and fast.
Clancy is a fine hurler, his biggest problem is that all the way up since about under 14 he has played midfield, be it at club, county, school, or third level, needs to think a bit more like a forward, takes a few too many blind alleys for my liking, but he has a great engine and has a great set of wrists on himā¦hopefully he keeps developing, had a couple of great games last year for Clare, was my man of the match against Limerick last Juneā¦
Just realised this conversation is on the wrong thread, nevertheless yeāre dotin if ye think Clancyās shootin is up to scratch. You canāt trust him to put over anythin outside of thirty yards. Again Iāve heaps of time for him and he could be huge for us but heās not there yet.
[quote=āBandageā]Fenlon was still going strong in 2003 and was good for another couple of years after that - a great hurler. I didnāt rate Mitch Jordan for large chunks of his inter-county career but he was chipping in with lots of scores that season. Larry Oā would have been 36 and was past it but was trying his heart out in fairness to him. Larry Murphy always looked older than he was - he would only have been around 31 in 2003, I think.
Rory Mallon was mentioned on another post. He went to America a few years ago. I canāt even remember the year myself (it may have been 2003 too) I think he played a full league campaign and then announced his departure on the eve of the championship, ala Richie Kehoe last year (must be a Faythe Harriers thing). He was over there for a good while and then I heard he was back and living in Galway. Then he was meant to be back in the US and then he was meant to be home again.
Wexford town traditionally had 4 football clubs (Sarsfields, St Johnās Volunteers, St Maryās Maudlintown and St Josephās), 1 hurling club (Faythe Harriers) and 1 shambolic/scumbag dual club (Clonard). So Faythe Harriers team-mates would often be playing against each other in town football derbies. Anyway, a few lads involved in the Vols decided to set up a hurling arm to the club a couple of years back and some Harriers players defected to them. Rory Mallon transferred across but I donāt think heās been around to play with them. Nicky Lambert also moved to them and they would have been playing Junior D hurling at home last year. Nicky was captain of the Wexford U21 team that lost that U21 final to Limerick in 2001 and was also called up to the senior team that year. Now, heās playing Junior D hurling at the age of 28/29. Gas.[/quote]
Was it Clonard that the Lyngs used the play with? Surprised that they didnt go and play with Harriers if that was the case instead of going to St Martins.
Yep, the Lyngs played with Clonard. Their auld lad used to coach nearly all their underage hurling teams from U10 up to minor. Eoin Quigley played with them too and it was around that time that they briefly threatened to get the upper hand over the Harriers. The seminal moment was the 1995 county U14 semi-final where we destroyed them and put them back in their box where theyāve remained ever since - the cunts.
St Martinās are a psuedo town team and theyāre always seen as the āniceā club to join for out of towners, who donāt want to mix it with a working class town club. Best for them to join the team from just outside the town in the leafy surrounds of Piercestown and Murrintown. Of course, they also have a load of local inbreds playing with them too. Remember that cunt Liam Turley who got an All Ireland medal in 1996? He was with St Martinās and lads like Toms Dunne missed out.
Edit: The Lyngs built a house out there and it was a fair enough move for them.
[quote=āPikemanā]Cos heās saying what Iāve been saying only apparently youāre too lazy to read my posts.
So you agree with Mac about following the current players then? A walking contradiction is right[/quote]
I donāt agree with everything Mac says. I just see where he is coming from, and acept his view.
Mac - Of course success at underage is a good thing for a county that doesnāt win that much. Might give the boost to the adult side. Laois werenāt completely useless at Senior, they did win a Leinster, which they hadnāt done in donkeys years. They wouldnāt have done that without the Minor teams.