You mean out of his box surely?
Full of accountants sure 
Where is the evidence that acupuncture is a placebo?
Anytime there are studies done physios and doctors (mind you plenty GP’s are getting trained in acupuncture nowadays) fob them off as not up to scratch. Yet the studies done to “prove” it as a “placebo” are often about 40 years old (regular one churned out is from 75 and is seriously flawed and doesn’t match modern peer review standards).
You see i don’t think that all Western Medicine is rubbish, much of it has been fantastic. However the insecure in tge western world think ALL eastern medicine is rubbish. Yet those people continue to live far healthier lives. Amazing that.
My doc, a GP who spent 2 years in China studying Acupuncture, gave me a prescription for drugs to sort out a lung infection. Western medicine for largely a western issue. It was the best answer for my issue in this moment in time. However he has often given me very different advice and sometimes (especially with neuromuscular issues) uses acupuncture.
I work now very closely with an acupuncturist. We actually work on clients together. The results we are having between sensible scientifically backed exercise and acupunture is even taking me by surprise. She has a Phd in Biomed and 4 more years on top of that in acupuncture.
Physios and GP’s and many pharma drugs have also have had placeno effects on people. Because very often sickness is very psychologically related and having confidence in something is often enough.
In other countries there are some fantastic Multi-Disciplinary clinics, they are common in fact in Europe and Oz. Irela ds medical community is slow to move this way due to fear of competition and a touch of pompus arrogance. Essebtially ego comes before the patient. Quite frankly its a disgrace, and those people are stealing from the people.
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This seems to pour cold water on acupuncture
http://www.dcscience.net/2013/05/30/acupuncture-is-a-theatrical-placebo-the-end-of-a-myth/
I had cold feet and was told acupuncture would help but I didn’t go as I got cold feet
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No it doesn’t. It gives the normal boring tripe thrown out by people hung up on it who are afraid of the competition.
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Accupuncture works
I read that before, most of the hostory he made up has been rubbished. Using anything the communist party did is not really strengthening your argument.
Both sides are probably guilty of it, but this is a classic case of cognitive bias tennis. I can orove i’m right and prove you are wrong and visa versa. And on and on and on…
All the properly conducted research with proper controls demonstrate that “sham” acupuncture is as effective as “real” acupuncture. Besides the onus is on those making the claim that it works to back up those claims. Nice story but anecdotal evidence is not evidence.
You could have bought her a packet of fags
Oh i’m only giving my experience. The science is out there. The establishment want to ignore it.
Why would many qualified Western medical practioners in Ireland (the hardest to convince) now be practicing acupuncture? Are they all idiots? Fools? Charlatans?
The science is there. Have a look.
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Some gimp on my Facebook timeline was peddling an apparent Richard Branson quote the other day about not thinking outside the box because he doesn’t let anyone build a box around him. FML life.
Would those same western medical practitioners share your view on cancer research do you think as a matter of interest?
Your education and training has boxed you off.
Maybe you need a career change 
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I would say there would be some, but who knows.
So they charge extra for it maybe?
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I am 100% sure some do it purely for business reasons, as always.
It’s because there’s demand for it and patients generally get what they want.
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No offence. But I doubt it. John Crown for example, a top tier oncologist uses his senators salary to fund two researchers in Dublin.
My brother has spent the guts of a decade working on various projects in Europe and the US in this and related fields for a fraction of the salary he could earn in private work. He believes in the science behind it, as do the couple of hundred people he has worked with in various university’s and hospitals from all corners of the globe. None of whom are doing it for the money.
Me personally, I don’t have a clue. I’m not qualified to say. I’m certain that there is a lot to what you say about lifestyle and diet being a huge factor in reducing risk of getting cancer. It makes perfect sense.
But it is difficult to imagine that you are right and all the eminently qualified scientists, doctors and oncology specialists who have devoted their lives to finding a cure for various cancers are wrong. Sounds like tin hat stuff to me
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Did you tell him kev thinks powdered rhino horn is more effective than the shite he’s at?
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