did your missus get work or just needs a few days off to do her own thing?
Fucking au pairs, no wonder kids are fucked with some stranger bring them up.
Kids need their parents. One of them should not work or at least very little. You don’t need as much money as you think you do, and your kids are more important than that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1066150, member: 273”]Fucking au pairs, no wonder kids are fucked with some stranger bring them up.
Kids need their parents. One of them should not work or at least very little. You don’t need as much money as you think you do, and your kids are more important than that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?[/QUOTE]
You’re right, kids do need their parents. It’s amazing how weird a kid can grow up without parents, he could make up all sorts of lies and bullshit as he creates a bizarre reality for himself. People are mental. MENTAL.
Only mugs have children
Your parents are mugs*
*presuming but are still with us
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1066150, member: 273”]Fucking au pairs, no wonder kids are fucked with some stranger bring them up.
Kids need their parents. One of them should not work or at least very little. You don’t need as much money as you think you do, and your kids are more important than that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?[/QUOTE]
What do you do with the dogs when you go to work kev?
[QUOTE=“theLockes, post: 1066158, member: 58”]Your parents are mugs*
*presuming but are still with us[/QUOTE]
@Tassotti wasn’t born of woman.
He was created on message boards in the early to mid noughties.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1066150, member: 273”]Fucking au pairs, no wonder kids are fucked with some stranger bring them up.
Kids need their parents. One of them should not work or at least very little. You don’t need as much money as you think you do, and your kids are more important than that.
What the fuck is wrong with people?[/QUOTE]
You do realise Au Pairs don’t always raise the kids don’t you?
Either come with me or stay at the house.
What’s your point?
Do you leave the dog in the van when you roofing a house Kev, that’s awful cruel
What I realise is mothers and fathers for years did a great job with bigger families and less resources with mostly the man only working.
All the money people waste on these things cost nearly the bones of an average salary from what I can see. But when you weigh up the benefits of not working or working very little against the few grand you might be left over a year there just simply doesn’t seem to be a case to be logically made for two full time parents working. The time and energy saved and the benefits for the kids is very hard to calculate.
I realise some people can mix and match when they are self employed and it allows joint parenting with both people more or less working. However this rarely needs any more than the odd couple of hours help from a grand parent or something. And is completely different to two people out working till 6 every day and coming home for 30-60 mins with the kids and no energy to do anything for themselves.
I listen to people all the time talking about wanting a bigger house or trading up blaa blaa blaa and killing themselves working for it while they have a grand house and the au pair brings up the one or two kids. It’s blinding stupidity.
People have completely lost the point of life. I thought the recession might have sorted us out a bit but I’m disappointed to see it hasn’t that much at all. We’re still all about keeping up with the jones.
Amazing you have loads of questions for me, but refuse to answer mine?
What do you do? You are all talk about what we all do.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1066179, member: 273”]What I realise is mothers and fathers for years did a great job with bigger families and less resources with mostly the man only working.
All the money people waste on these things cost nearly the bones of an average salary from what I can see. But when you weigh up the benefits of not working or working very little against the few grand you might be left over a year there just simply doesn’t seem to be a case to be logically made for two full time parents working. The time and energy saved and the benefits for the kids is very hard to calculate.
I realise some people can mix and match when they are self employed and it allows joint parenting with both people more or less working. However this rarely needs any more than the odd couple of hours help from a grand parent or something. And is completely different to two people out working till 6 every day and coming home for 30-60 mins with the kids and no energy to do anything for themselves.
I listen to people all the time talking about wanting a bigger house or trading up blaa blaa blaa and killing themselves working for it while they have a grand house and the au pair brings up the one or two kids. It’s blinding stupidity.
People have completely lost the point of life. I thought the recession might have sorted us out a bit but I’m disappointed to see it hasn’t that much at all. We’re still all about keeping up with the jones.[/QUOTE]
Sôme people have to pay Mortgages, Kev.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1066179, member: 273”]What I realise is mothers and fathers for years did a great job with bigger families and less resources with mostly the man only working.
All the money people waste on these things cost nearly the bones of an average salary from what I can see. But when you weigh up the benefits of not working or working very little against the few grand you might be left over a year there just simply doesn’t seem to be a case to be logically made for two full time parents working. The time and energy saved and the benefits for the kids is very hard to calculate.
I realise some people can mix and match when they are self employed and it allows joint parenting with both people more or less working. However this rarely needs any more than the odd couple of hours help from a grand parent or something. And is completely different to two people out working till 6 every day and coming home for 30-60 mins with the kids and no energy to do anything for themselves.
I listen to people all the time talking about wanting a bigger house or trading up blaa blaa blaa and killing themselves working for it while they have a grand house and the au pair brings up the one or two kids. It’s blinding stupidity.
People have completely lost the point of life. I thought the recession might have sorted us out a bit but I’m disappointed to see it hasn’t that much at all. We’re still all about keeping up with the jones.[/QUOTE]
How do you define ‘a great job’?
Well that’s their own stupidity for putting themselves in such a situation and again has to do with staying up with the jones. But paying 500-2k per month on crèche & various child minding fees is surely counter acting it for most people. Is the little bit left over enough to make up for the lost time with kids? Anyone who thinks it is just isn’t ready for kids.
I realise the situation is irretrievable for a lot of people, however it’s still happening across the board with new couples and people buying houses, and people just seem to be dying to get themselves into a financial stranglehold. The sooner the better it seems is the way to go. There is no other reason for that other than wanting to “appear successful”.
Why do people with 1-3 kids need 4/5 bed room houses? It’s fucking nuts.
Their kids grow up
- respectful to others
- decent sense of empathy
- want to work
- have purpose in their life
- have friends
- follow their dreams
- don’t want more than they need
Etc etc. it’s not easy of course, but it’s all pretty straight forward to me.
What it’s not is that you have, as a parent, enough money, to fob them off to someone else or pay them off as they get older with presents and holidays etc to make up for not being around.
It’s all pretty basic really.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1066196, member: 273”]Their kids grow up
- respectful to others
- decent sense of empathy
- want to work
- have purpose in their life
- have friends
- follow their dreams
- don’t want more than they need
Etc etc. it’s not easy of course, but it’s all pretty straight forward to me.
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Have you any proof that all kids raised by 2 working parents don’t end up like this?
Ya, all over the place. The same mistakes get repeated a lot of course by the same kids.
[QUOTE=“mickee321, post: 1066132, member: 367”]ive been royally mugged off
- 500 euro a month, 2 days a week to put this fella in a creche…[/QUOTE]
Will be great for him. Will noticed a difference in him almost immediately
Ah it’s not. I pay less than a grand