Just finished the second half of that doc, tough viewing but v interesting to hear from the polis throughout it and what it was like from their sideā¦ Not sure it will work below.
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[QUOTE=āMark Renton, post: 932682, member: 1796ā]Just finished the second half of that doc, tough viewing but v interesting to hear from the polis throughout it and what it was like from their sideā¦ Not sure it will work below.
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It doesnāt work, pal.
Part two and three deal with the day in particular, showing the build up outside, the lack of stewards/policeā Part three shows the crush unfolding etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnzxknqWR1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw-taUbLPlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL4hYVGKJQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYUvUBLcpuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVFvIc3dx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLVoewyH_8
What happened in May 1985 that saw English clubs banned from Europe for 5 years?
Ruling out the fact that the guy who according to Liverpool " didnt build the wall properly" in Heysel was also linked to designing the terracing at Hillsboro it dosent take a genius to figure out that there is a pretty strong commonality with events in 1985 and 1989 that saw many innocent people die who went to a gameā¦
[QUOTE=āmickee321, post: 932696, member: 367ā]What happened in May 1985 that saw English clubs banned from Europe for 5 years?
Ruling out the fact that the guy who according to Liverpool " didnt build the wall properly" in Heysel was also linked to designing the terracing at Hillsboro it dosent take a genius to figure out that there is a pretty strong commonality with events in 1985 and 1989 that saw many innocent people die who went to gameā¦[/QUOTE]
Thatcher government imposed that ban in a war against the working class of Great Britain.
so itās Thatcherās fault that the same club were involved in two separate incidents in two different countries that resulted in the deaths of many innocent people?
The 30 for 30 is a magnificent and powerful documentary and the best thing ever made about the Hillsborough disaster. Itās also the best 30 for 30 Iāve seen, and there have been some great ones.
Stop, kid. Just stopā¦ We go to Norwich!!
Why is there a question mark at the end of your statement of fact?
what had Thatcher got to do with the same group of fans going on a murderous rampage on 2 separate occasions?
[QUOTE=āMark Renton, post: 932695, member: 1796ā]Part two and three deal with the day in particular, showing the build up outside, the lack of stewards/policeā Part three shows the crush unfolding etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnzxknqWR1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw-taUbLPlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL4hYVGKJQo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYUvUBLcpuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVFvIc3dx0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLVoewyH_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBPKGYoPsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGQ2OHU3FqU
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The links donāt work.
They did earlier, have now been taken down.
Wiill someone lock this fucking thread.
i agree, the air has been well and truly sucked out of it
Leave it open , Iāve gone through this āindependent reportā over the last 2 days and its terms of reference , approach to how it went about its business , but more importantly what it chose to ignore including one fine contribution by the Yorkshire police which was merely referenced , Iāve a lot more to add here.
Interesting also that despite voluntary non contested contributions from SWFC and Yorkshire police to the bereaved compensation fund the figure opposite the initials LFC remains a 0
[QUOTE=āKid Chocolate, post: 932821, member: 553ā]Leave it open , Iāve gone through this āindependent reportā over the last 2 days and its terms of reference , approach to how it went about its business , but more importantly what it chose to ignore including one fine contribution by the Yorkshire police which was merely referenced , Iāve a lot more to add here.
Interesting also that despite voluntary non contested contributions from SWFC and Yorkshire police to the bereaved compensation fund the figure opposite the initials LFC remains a 0[/QUOTE]
FOAD you cunt.
By the way congrats on the win.
Oh look who it is, someone desperate to fit in to attain some popularity on here wades into a debate to slag off someone with an alternative point of view. Giving it the big 'un and berating others, rather than constructively debating the issue at hand. ādodgyās opinion is not shared by the majority on this thread so Iāll try and score a few brownie points and call him a cunt rather than put forward my own coherent arguments as to why he is wrong here.ā
You are pathetic, gutless cowardly prick. I disagree with a lot of what is said on various topics but I donāt need to throw a strop whenever someone says something I donāt like. ābile and hatred, giant pool of hatred in which he will eventually drown.ā Calm the fuck down you drama queen.
As for the Hillsborough issue no-one is glorifying in the death of 96 people at a sporting event. Absolutely terrible what happened. My issue is how Liverpool FC and their fans wonāt accept even a tiny amount of responsibility for that day (not the full blame as it was not all their fault but a small acknowledgement that too many supporters had showed up and that had tragically contributed to what happened). It was the South Yorkshire Police, it was the FA, it was Thatcher, it was The Sun, it was the match officials - everyone elses fault. Again I repeat no-one deserved to die, the police made terrible mistakes but people arriving without tickets inadvertantly led to the innocent people at the front getting crushed. Thatās all I am saying.
Heysel - wasnāt their fault then either. It was UEFA, it was the National Front, it was Chelsea, it was the stadium.
Athens 2007 - it was the authorities fault, it was UEFAās fault.
The last independent commission which absolved Liverpool fans was chaired by the Bishop of Liverpool - how is that independent. The victims deserve to be remembered, no-one should suffer the way the victims and their families have but this campaign for Justice almost appears, to me anyway, to be an attempt to shift blame on to every other party when a tacit acknowledgement that a number of factors - one of them being ticketless and drunk fans present - contributed to what happened. Instead it is an attempt to totally and categorically foist blame on everyone else. Thatās my issue.
Raising any valid points like this is used by some as an insult to the 96. Absolute bollocks. They were the unfortunate victims, no-one has said or is saying they were responsible for their deaths.
He lives 
And heās seething 
Another prickish post from a prick :rolleyes:
Very mature, reasoned debate there. As I have come to know from you over the last 57k worth of posts.
Iām not seething, Iām putting forward a certain point of view that some agree with and some donāt. I donāt get worked up either way.
You calling someone a prick is a monumental case of a pot calling the kettle black.