Humphries on the Cork saga

Humphries quite good in Lockeroom this week, though he seems to think that people on internet discussion boards don’t know what they’re talking about (shurley shome mishtake).

Although, a lot of what he says here doesn’t exactly mirror what Gerald McCarthy said in his (excellent) statement last week, when he gave it to the players.

Big players must stand up for what’s right

HUMPHRIESLOCKER ROOM: The real culprits in the Cork saga are not Gerald McCarthy and the disgruntled players, writes Tom Humphries

IT’S NOT a great thing in the current editorial climate for a columnist to lack certainty. Seeing both sides of the issue is a crippling form of paralysis in a environment where the pace is set by bloggers and chat-room tyrants, those lucky creatures who have never felt a second or third thought tugging at their sleeve.

There aren’t many of us left who have some sympathy for the Cork hurlers, are there? Does that preclude us from feeling the same thing for Gerald McCarthy? Both sides are victims.

I like Gerald. As a kid I bowed to no man in my worship for Jimmy Barry Murphy. In my ingratiating and shamelessly fawning way I have often embarrassed the great man by reminding him of how after the 1977 All-Ireland final myself and partner in personation blagged our way into the Cork dressingroom, pretending to be lost cousins of Tom Cashman’s. Once inside in that happy din we sat either side of Jimmy Barry begging and cajoling him for his hurleys. I tell Jimmy Barry this and he pulls out the order he has nowadays requiring me to keep 500 metres away from him. Ah well.

Anyway, on that day I recall the only thing which distracted me was occasional wincing glances at Gerald McCarthy who was lying corpse-like on the physio table having his upper lip stitched together again with needle and thread. This was being done without benefit of namby pamby things like anaesthetic or a bit of privacy. Gerald was a tough man then and he is a tough man now.

A gentleman, but a tough and a proud one too. No Cork hurler would go to Gerald McCarthy, look him in the eye and say, “Gerald this isn’t working out” unless that hurler felt passionately there is a better way.

Gerald’s old friend Justin McCarthy walked away with quiet dignity when the Waterford players said time was up last summer. He had less cause to do so than Gerald has. For his sanity and his family he did the right thing. Nobody who has given so much as either Gerald or Justin need to get involved in this sort of unwinnable stand-off at this stage in their lives.

Yet Gerald’s statement released this week was as eloquent an expression of generational bewilderment at the modern GAA as I have read. He made his case with almost poetic precision and in the PR war put himself well ahead. The great pity is that Gerald is seen to be in opposition with the players at all. Times have changed. The Cork County Board hasn’t. Gerald McCarthy can do nothing about that lag between reality and the time which the board appears to live in.

What about the players? What do people want from them exactly? They took a stand for themselves back in 2002 and in the year that followed on they delivered amply and repaid, as they had said they would, the increased investment of resources and expertise into their cause. They have been a great and charismatic team. They didn’t have to put themselves on the line for the football brethren last year but they did so while knowing their own case would be weakened by public fatigue with bickering.

So here they are again. If we desist from the knee-jerk response of “what the bloody hell is wrong with them now” and look over the past few years, the common denominator is a county board and their doggedness. Since 2002 every little gain has been the subject of petty attempts to claw it back. As well as training to be a top intercounty team the Cork players have this sense of constantly having to watch their own backs. They look at Kilkenny and see an entire county moving seamlessly and in unison.

To get out of the position they were in last winter between a rock and a hard place, the Cork players bought a pup on good faith. In a situation where everyone was behaving in an adult fashion, having two players, preferably recent players, on the selection committee choosing senior managers would be a good idea. Sometimes a great manager comes to a team at the wrong time. Mickey Whelan, one of the most talented coaches in Dublin, came to the management position at the wrong time just after the side had won an All-Ireland in the mid-90s. Ger Loughnane was a bad fit in Galway. It happens. Players with recent involvement would be in a good position to gauge the chances of success of any arranged marriage.

After two years when many major games have been lost maybe Gerald isn’t the right fit for this current Cork hurling side. That is no slight on either party. They’ve given each other a chance. They seemed to have come to a natural parting in the wake of the Kilkenny defeat. For some reason, though, Cork finds itself in a state of chassis once again.

Releasing the details of a sports psychology exercise performed last summer while the team was recovering from defeat to Tipperary was about as relevant and helpful as rooting out a couple of old Valentines in the course of a messy divorce proceeding. The immense breach of faith involved tells us something of the environment which the players are operating in.

Fighting the Cork County Board is like being a sea beating against a coastline. You might cause slight erosion but the coastline is always there. It is like fighting one of those Hollywood beasts which refuses to die. As the end credits roll the camera sneakily picks out a faint pulse of a twitching muscle in the body of the apparently slain animal. There will always be a sequel.

Why are the players put in this position? If 30 players who produced those stunningly passionate backs-to-the-walls performances of last summer suddenly feel en masse that there is no point in making themselves available for selection in the future then something is wrong. There is no point in the county board or Gerald attempting to stonewall the issue. I don’t believe there is an element within the Cork panel which has a pre-disposition to conflict. I believe they have a pre-disposition towards winning and toward excellence. So, too, does Gerald McCarthy.

They have different road maps showing how to get there but this isn’t a case of a panel of players who have given us so much over the past decade feeling an itch during the winter time for a little of the mortification of the soul which comes with general excoriation and public opprobrium. They need this hassle less than anybody.

The odd fact of the matter, and we often forget this in the modern era, is that the players are amateurs. They do what they do because they are chasing something that is almost ethereal. They want the best from themselves. So they take huge chunks of their time to pursue that. And if they think they aren’t being provided with a forum where they can do it well, that is the problem of every genuine GAA person in Cork, not just the players and Gerald.

It is time for a little humility all round. No more stags butting in the glen. These are great players. Great people. And a great Cork hurling man Gerald McCarthy. If the current model isn’t working, the broader GAA community in Cork needs to appreciate that it is losing out and needs to see to whatever root and branch changes are needed to make things better. Permanently .

The fault isn’t with Gerald or with the players. There was a shameful silence when Billy Morgan was shafted. There have been shameful silences from great Cork GAA men on practically every issue going back to 2002. Gerald isn’t shafting the players here and the players aren’t shafting Gerald. Gerald and the players are being shafted by people whose sole interest is keeping scores and keeping control.

Blaming players is easy. Time for some big people to stand up for what is right. Time to make sure that this is the last time a group of players who have given so much to the Cork jersey feel that they have to put themselves in the stockades for a while to make progress.

2008 The Irish Times

i canr read that. too much writting, fucjk the cork fuckers.

cork fucks

[quote=“The Runt”]i canr read that. too much writting, fucjk the cork fuckers.

cork fucks[/quote]

Maybe you could just read this bit -

“IT’S NOT a great thing in the current editorial climate for a columnist to lack certainty. Seeing both sides of the issue is a crippling form of paralysis in a environment where the pace is set by bloggers and chat-room tyrants, those lucky creatures who have never felt a second or third thought tugging at their sleeve.”

Humphries is obviously a big fan of your work Runt.

[quote=“The Runt”]i canr read that. too much writting, fucjk the cork fuckers.

cork fucks[/quote]

God i can’t understand why anyone would be jealous of Cork people at the moment. Wherever your from Runt your probably better off for now.

Thought it was pretty much a nothing article really. He’s just stating the obvious in a jounalistic way.

I can say what I want when I’m drunk. :smiley:

Although seriously Caoimh, I’ve let be known enough times that I’ve very little time for that current bunch of Cork players. I admire them as hurlers and sportsmen but that’s about it.

[quote=“The Runt”]I can say what I want when I’m drunk. :smiley:

Although seriously Caoimh, I’ve let be known enough times that I’ve very little time for that current bunch of Cork players. I admire them as hurlers and sportsmen but that’s about it.[/quote]

is there anything else they want from You or any of us. Who do you think you are Runt; Dr Bill :smiley:

btw you do know that sig you’re quoting was a piss take on Christmas right?

[quote=“Mairegangaire”]is there anything else they want from You or any of us. Who do you think you are Runt; Dr Bill :smiley:
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Then let them stick to the hurling and shut their traps.

[quote=“Mairegangaire”]
btw you do know that sig you’re quoting was a piss take on Christmas right?[/quote]

Obviously. I found it very funny, apologies.

[quote=“The Runt”]Then let them stick to the hurling and shut their traps.

Obviously. I found it very funny, apologies.[/quote]

I think we all need to shut our traps this time. From what I’m hearing and reading there is a tidal wave of sympathy for all but Frank Murphy and the Cork County Board.

If it was the players I don’t think Nickey I love the Camera Brennan would be so quiet; do you?

No need to apologise; I’m glad you found if funny; its just sometimes around here my dryness needs some lubricating…

You heard ot here first lads, but i think there is a direct hit at Frank coming, don’t ask why i think or know this, but a challenge to his power could be on the way, and not from the players either.

twil be a fair brave club delegate will move against Frank.

Is this a pure hunch on your behalf?

On a somewhat related topic did anyone read the letter from a member of the westmeath county board that was in the Sindo…he made some very interesting points and threw a few sly digs at nickey the media whore…

[quote=“dancarter”]twil be a fair brave club delegate will move against Frank.
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you can sing that. players are waiting til later in the week to speak, wonder whats on the way…

[quote=“dancarter”]twil be a fair brave club delegate will move against Frank.

Is this a pure hunch on your behalf?[/quote]

It’s a hunch i had last week but i am starting to hear and see signs of something coming. It may come through the clubs, but i can see it coming in another way, partly going to involve ex-players. The delegates are a waste of space, they don’t really represent the views of the clubs members, i think everyone knows that.There are emergency club meetins all over the place.
The city Board chairman Derek Connolly (who i personally know) last week asked (in the echo) that all clubs, including Junior, come together and debate/have a meeting. Apparently this hasn’t gone down well at all with CCB and he was “told off”, well when they do that to a very respected GAA man in the city i think they are in big trouble.

This dispute will/is bigger than any of the former disputes all put together, it’s going to get hardcore, and i daresay a bit of fun. I may get involved myself.

Y’see I dont agree with this shite of “the delgates dont speak for the club”.

Well who’s fucking fault is that?!

Jaysus you’d think it was the stonecutters or something…

[quote=“myboyblue”]Y’see I dont agree with this shite of “the delgates dont speak for the club”.

Well who’s fucking fault is that?!

Jaysus you’d think it was the stonecutters or something…[/quote]

Well they didn’t bring the vote on the Cork manager back to the clubs did they?
Nothing comes back to the clubs, so the delegates vote off their own views. Thats flawed.

[quote=“myboyblue”]

Jaysus you’d think it was the stonecutters or something…[/quote]

or possibly ‘the alliance’:D…

[quote=“caoimhaoin”]Well they didn’t bring the vote on the Cork manager back to the clubs did they?
Nothing comes back to the clubs, so the delegates vote off their own views. Thats flawed.[/quote]

And who votes in these delegates in their Clubs?

In a lot of cases there is no vote. But it doesn’t matter who they put in there if he can’t bring important issues back to the club.

Why is there no vote? Because no one stands against them, thats why. Evil will reign when good people do nothing I believe is how the saying goes.

And they will bring important issues back if they are mandated too. However they shouldnt have to, because the Club delegate should know the heart and wishes of his Club on major matters by speaking of them prior to a meeting.

[quote=“myboyblue”]Why is there no vote? Because no one stands against them, thats why. Evil will reign when good people do nothing I believe is how the saying goes.

And they will bring important issues back if they are mandated too. However they shouldnt have to, because the Club delegate should know the heart and wishes of his Club on major matters by speaking of them prior to a meeting.[/quote]

I’m afraid your not allowing for the fact that the CCB bring things up totally out of the blue for discussion. They also have a brilliant ploy of not dealing with controversial matters for weeks on end, so that they are either forgotten about or its too late to do anything about it.

You realyy would have to go to one of these meetings to know what i’m on about.