Hurler of the Year and All Stars debate

WTF does the league matter?

It’s time Lohan stepped away it’s clearly not working.

The tipp loss was another fluke and if they hadn’t thrown it away on the sideline they’d have accounted for Kilkenny. It’s all ifs and bits but I don’t think you can discount what they did this year, in reality no one else achieved any more than them. Kk only fluked a Leinster title and were handed a semi win by Clare.

He has to change something surely. He’s gotten closer to Limerick than anyone but they’ve been shown up on the sideline a few times now. He should give it one more go but should recognise they need to add to or adjust the backroom team somehow. Fantastic team to watch when they click in fairness.

Simple fact for Lohan and Clare is they don’t really have the players or the squad depth.

If you can stop Tony Kelly you’ll beat Clare. The supporting cast isn’t good enough.

Lohan has probably overachieved if anything.

That’s not true at all really, if they have everyone fit they are a match for everyone. They don’t have the depth to sustain injuries to key players but no one other than Limerick does.

Problem is with the new format you’ll almost never have everyone fit.

They are short at 3 and 6. In goals too.

Definitely disagree with that again. They have as good a pair of players for 3 and 6 as anyone else (again outside of Limerick). I agree they don’t have depth to sustain injuries but again no one other than Limerick does. They need things to go their way - clean bill of health, and key ref calls - but if they do they’ve as good or probably better a set of players to take advantage.

The biggest obvious place they can improve is on the sideline. They’ve shown the team can go toe to toe with Limerick but they’ve had a lot of sideline cockups.

Sure you do realise it’s Limerick winning the all Ireland??

Yeah, and Clare have been closer to them than anyone.

They’ve asked a lot of questions of Limerick alright but there’s a book of evidence to suggest Limerick are different beast in croke park too.

Clare are a fine side but they are limited. They lack a few quality of players. Cleary is a decent player but he’s not outstanding nor is Conlon nowadays. The keeper isn’t great either.

Probably short another forward as well.

I’m not sure who Clare have coming through next year but I wouldn’t be shocked to see them fall back a little unless they find a couple of players.

If the league means nothing they should stop calling it team of the year.

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How long has it been since the league mattered in the All Stars?

Think they’re the only team to beat us twice in the championship since we started winning All Irelands on the regular?

Under kiely Clare have beaten us in 17, 18 and 23.

Kilkenny in 17 and 19.

Rory Hayes and Diarmuid Ryan’s lack of defensive instincts are bigger issues/weaknesses than Conlon or Cleary.

If Clare had two Adam Hogan’s or two David Mcinerney’s they would probably be an all Ireland winning side imho. Hayes makes too many mental mistakes and Ryan is worth his place on the 15 but offers no cover with his attacking intent - the two lads cough up significantly more scores than Conlon and cleary through lapses and mental errors

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Good man Lar

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He called Tom Morrissey Dan.

We’d have fierce respect for Lar

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