I'm a whiney bitch who can't drink for shit these days

[Thrawneen]

@Sidney

To dumb it down a bit, I believe that intelligent people and especially creative people are definitely more prone to depression/ unhappiness/whatever you want to call it, simply because they think and reflect about things more. Studies have also shown that more intelligent people tend to consume higher amounts of alcohol.

There’s a lot to be said for being a simpleton.

[Sidney]

@Thrawneen

There’s a lot to be said for being a simpleton.

I remember watching a programme about the 1974 World Cup and some German journalist on it said that Gerd Muller’s biggest advantage in front of goal was that he didn’t think very much - ie that he was as thick as a plank.

[mickee321]

@Sidney

I remember watching a programme about the 1974 World Cup and some German journalist on it said that Gerd Muller’s biggest advantage in front of goal was that he didn’t think very much - ie that he was as thick as a plank.

how did he get on with the booze?

[anon67715551]

@Sidney

To dumb it down a bit, I believe that intelligent people and especially creative people are definitely more prone to depression/ unhappiness/whatever you want to call it, simply because they think and reflect about things more. Studies have also shown that more intelligent people tend to consume higher amounts of alcohol.

Great observation Sid. To the guys who have been frank about personal situations, all I can say is I hope things work out for you and yours. While this thread initially was about the after-affects of porterfests, there’s more to it that seemed at the start.
God bless the last few contributors.

[Sidney]

@mickee321

how did he get on with the booze?

I never knew he was an alcoholic, actually, until I did a quick internet search there.

[anon67715551]

@Thrawneen

There’s a lot to be said for being a simpleton.

Fucks sake Thraw…I thought more of you. :guns:

[Bandage]

A few things:

1. Farmer, fair play for giving the nod to others to PM you if they ever need/want to shoot the breeze. Shouldn’t be a stigma around this anyway and more open discussion about things helps from that perspective too.

2. Others, please treat any advice received from Farmer with extreme caution. We’re all aware of the big man’s shit music recommendations.

3. Farmer, would you be offended if I admitted to breaking my hole laughing when I read your post there about attending “GROW”?! That’s the last fucking thing you need to do pal. :guns:

[mickee321]

@Bandage

3. Farmer, would you be offended if I admitted to breaking my hole laughing when I read your post there about attending “GROW”?! That’s the last fucking thing you need to do pal. :guns:

its good you’re making him AWARE of your concerns anyway mate

[mickee321]

@Sidney

I never knew he was an alcoholic, actually, until I did a quick internet search there.

so thick people can also be drunks… interesting developements here this evening

[farmerinthecity]

@Bandage

A few things:

1. Farmer, fair play for giving the nod to others to PM you if they ever need/want to shoot the breeze. Shouldn’t be a stigma around this anyway and more open discussion about things helps from that perspective too.

2. Others, please treat any advice received from Farmer with extreme caution. We’re all aware of the big man’s shit music recommendations.

3. Farmer, would you be offended if I admitted to breaking my hole laughing when I read your post there about attending “GROW”?! That’s the last fucking thing you need to do pal. :guns:

Re point 2: One word for you Bandage - Emancipator.

Re point 3: No I would not be offended. The more :lol: we have in relation to this subject, the better.

[Sidney]

@farmerinthecity

I hear ya. Has he ever tried attending support groups hosted by Aware or Grow? The Aware one helped me at a particular rough time. I am currently attending Grow on recommendation of my counsellor and I find them good. We are all on first names basis and nobody is treated any differently no matter what sympthoms they bring. There is a lad in my group who sufferers from schizophrenia, has been in Grow for years and has kept it at bay.

Fair play Farmer. It takes courage for a person to confront depression, because fear and shame are two characteristics that are very much associated with it. There is an inertia to depression, a feeling of worthlessness, that is almost paralysing, Confronting anything is the last thing you want to do. I feel it a lot, although it comes and goes. Hopefully that isn’t too much of a contradiction. I’m not sure I would have the courage or the initiative to confront it by attending a group, in fact there’s no way I would. Alcohol is an anaesthetic, but it makes things worse in the long run. We laugh to hide the tears and all that.

[Bandage]

[quote=“farmerinthecity, post: 571716”]

Re point 2: One word for you Bandage - Emancipator.

Re point 3: No I would not be offended. The more we have in relation to this subject, the better.[/quote]

Re 2: hmmm, exception that proves the rule or whatever that phrase is.

Re 3:

[Thrawneen]

@Boxtyeater

Fucks sake Thraw…I thought more of you. :guns:

I’m happy enough to keep my artistic side and my mild-to-above-average alcoholism, as opposed to this, Boxty, don’t worry.

[Rudi]

@farmerinthecity

Re point 2: One word for you Bandage - Emancipator.

Re point 3: No I would not be offended. The more :lol: we have in relation to this subject, the better.

Ah well, I had the “had you ever considered not listening to Radiohead anymore?” quip rehearsed in my mind after your initial post but was a little hesitant as towards your feelings and the general reaction of sanctimonious and pompous arseholes like Gola who need a new flag to wave. The time has passed now, that’s what being considerate does to you.

[Fagan_ODowd]

Fair play farmer.

[Rim_Jeeves]

My sister suffers from general anxiety which manifests itself as OCD. Convinced she has cancer all the time checking herself for lumps etc…

She has managed to struggle through life with help of Prozac a good therapist and an understanding husband.

My mum was a serious worrier too but nothing as extreme as the sis.

The brain remains a mystery.

Fair play with your openess farmer. the best of luck. do you find regular exercise helps at all?

[mickee321]

@Rim Jeeves

Fair play with your openess farmer. the best of luck. do you find regular exercise helps at all?

it’s not cholestorol levels that are the issue here pal

[mickee321]

@farmerinthecity

I hear ya. Has he ever tried attending support groups hosted by Aware or Grow? The Aware one helped me at a particular rough time. I am currently attending Grow on recommendation of my counsellor and I find them good. We are all on first names basis and nobody is treated any differently no matter what sympthoms they bring. There is a lad in my group who sufferers from schizophrenia, has been in Grow for years and has kept it at bay.

thanks for the post farmer.
No, he hasn’t, you see i dont think he even knows he has a problem, thats the whole thing,
Paranoid schizophrenics are living in lala land most of the time, they are completely delusional,
i know its easy to say he knows he spent 4 weeks in state care a few years back and yes he knows he is taking meds but its almost as if he he thinks its like he is suffering from a cold or something and needs anitibiotics,
A lot of it is my parents too, the stigma attached to spending time in a mental hospital with their generation is very bad, im not sure has my dad ever forgiven me for getting the gaurds and stuff involved ( who were amazing BTW) when we needed to do what had to be done.
i want my brother to admit at least he has an issue and then see what we can do, honestly i have no idea where to start, do i talk to his GP, i mean how do i tell my brother i think he needs councelling, ? id be afraid he’ll go off the rails… i have no idea how to deal with this.
surely there is some form of state suport for an adult with a mental illness that is preventing him from working, my dad keeps on giving him money to get buy , but its doing nothing but masking the situation…
not sure where we are going TBH

[farmerinthecity]

@Sidney

Fair play Farmer. It takes courage for a person to confront depression, because fear and shame are two characteristics that are very much associated with it. There is an inertia to depression, a feeling of worthlessness, that is almost paralysing, Confronting anything is the last thing you want to do. I feel it a lot, although it comes and goes. Hopefully that isn’t too much of a contradiction. I’m not sure I would have the courage or the initiative to confront it by attending a group, in fact there’s no way I would. Alcohol is an anaesthetic, but it makes things worse in the long run. We laugh to hide the tears and all that.

Everyone has their own way of coping though Sid. The important thing is that you cope. Who is to say what the best way of coping is - it depends on the individual. So I’d be careful of saying that you don’t have courage because you don’t speak out in front of a group. Dealing with depression by whatever means takes courage.

[farmerinthecity]

@Il Bomber Destro

Ah well, I had the “had you ever considered not listening to Radiohead anymore?” quip rehearsed in my mind after your initial post but was a little hesitant as towards your feelings and the general reaction of sanctimonious and pompous arseholes like Gola who need a new flag to wave. The time has passed now, that’s what being considerate does to you.

:lol:

Tommy Tiernan down the back of the bus.