International Elections Thread

You are not aligned in any way to the real world and you’ve proved that over a long stretch of time. The entirety of your worldview points to a wilful retreat into a child like fantasy. You do not want competent government. You want seductive easy answers, infantile nationalism and racism and economic fantasy. This is why you support those who peddle such.

What GB News peddles, in other words.

Coach Klopp.

“I am very sorry that I cannot associate myself with this Bill or with anything relating to the public safety measures introduced by the Cumann na nGaedheal Government or by the present Fianna Fáil Government because I have seen that most of these Emergency Acts were always directed against Republicanism. How is it that we do not see any of these Acts directed against the Jews, who crucified Our Saviour nineteen hundred years ago, and who are crucifying us every day in the week? How is it that we do not see them directed against the Masonic Order? How is it that the I.R.A. is considered an illegal organisation while the Masonic Order is not considered an illegal organisation? You do not hear one word in these Acts against the banks who are robbing the people, right, left and centre. I told the electors in Leix-Offaly that the banks were robbers. The police were listening to me. Does the Minister for Justice think that, if the banks were not robbers, the police would have allowed me to make that statement in public without attempting to make me prove it? This Government is introducing an Emergency Powers Bill now to prevent the suffering masses of the Irish people from ridding themselves or the poverty, emigration, debt, seizures and a thousand and one other national ills which I could continue to enumerate in this House until this day-week, but I do not propose to waste your precious time doing so.”

Ive always done my own thing - this statement merely reflects your own unhinged view that youre at war with an imagined group online. That’s very unsettling.

The only far right twitter demagogues i read are usually posted by you. You’re a great man for digging them out. All part of the war effort i suppose.

This reads like something you’ve taken from a manual - The Lefty Looneys Guide to the World. Chapter 1 - What Makes the Far Right…

Indeed… All from a lad that can’t go to the local shop without running into a far right conspiracy.

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You don’t remotely do your own thing. You’re an absolute sheep who has proved themselves fodder for far Twitter slogans and those who spout such drivel. One of several lads here who have followed the same path as Gemma O’Doherty and Ewan MacKenna.

You’re conclusive proof that somebody can have all the educational opportunities in the world lavished on them but remain thick as pigshit through choice.

Giorgia Meloni scored a remarkable success in yesterday’s Italian election – and is all but certain to become prime minister. Her post-fascist Brothers of Italy party’s 26% of the vote makes it the largest party nationally. Overall, the rightwing coalition it now leads will have a considerable majority in both houses of parliament.

Part of the explanation lies in the weakness of the opposition. The eclectic Five Star Movement (15%) and the centre-left Democrats (19%) did not join forces and, after years of failing to improve working-class living standards, were unable to rally the left’s historic base. Turnout was easily the lowest in the republic’s history, with only 64% of Italians voting.

Yet this isn’t just the story of Italy making a sudden and sharp turn to the right. It’s the latest product of a long normalisation of far-right parties. The media often casts the former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi as a “moderating” influence, but he played a key role in today’s far-right breakthroughs. He has boasted that he “invented the centre-right in 1994” by allying with “the League and the fascists” – “we legitimised and constitutionalised them”. From the outset, Berlusconi made harsh anti-immigrant statements, routinely trivialised Mussolini’s crimes and appointed lifelong neo-fascists to top jobs.

Berlusconi’s last government was felled by the sovereign debt crisis in 2011, and he then supported a technocratic cabinet. Then, in 2013, he was banned from public office after a tax fraud conviction. This offered room for first the League, then Brothers of Italy to claim leadership over the rightwing coalition, foregrounding their narrative of civilisational decline and nationalist resistance.

Much of Brothers of Italy’s more recent rise is due to its position as the only major opposition to Mario Draghi’s crossparty cabinet, which both Matteo Salvini and Berlusconi joined upon its creation in February 2021. Meloni emphasised she would pursue a “constructive” approach to Draghi and continue his distribution of post-pandemic EU funds, but without making deals with the centre-left. This entrenched her as leader of the righwing coalition, with the other parties now promising to make her prime minister.

If Italy will now have its most rightwing prime minister since 1945, this does not mean a mere return to the past. Brothers of Italy is rooted in the Movimento Sociale Italiano (MSI), a neo-fascist party created in 1946 which ran in elections but retained a deep hostility toward the republic created at the end of the anti-fascist resistance.

During Berlusconi’s governments, MSI leaders formally accepted liberal-democratic values, dropped their old name and condemned Mussolini’s antisemitism. Yet many still cherished the legacy of postwar neo-fascism, and Brothers of Italy was created in 2012 as an explicit reassertion of the MSI tradition. This is a party that seeks to rewrite history textbooks to highlight the crimes of anti-fascist partisans. But it also draws on other, more international far-right memes like the “great replacement” of Europeans by immigrants – a conspiracy theory that has inspired multiple terrorist attacks.

Brothers of Italy has promised major changes to the political legacy of the postwar republic. One is to marginalise parliament and parties by introducing a directly elected presidency. But many critics fear it will go further. This month, Brothers of Italy and the League were the only Italian parties to vote against an EU parliament resolution that damned Viktor Orbán’s Hungary an “electoral autocracy”. Meloni’s party has also mooted a constitutional ban on “apologia for communism and Islamic extremism” – imitating catch-all measures used in Budapest to squash leftwing critics.

The process of government formation usually takes at least a month, even when there is a clearly identifiable majority. Brothers of Italy leaders have insisted that they expect the outgoing government to take key measures on soaring energy bills before they arrive in office. Yet this crisis and the war in Ukraine could cause major problems. Despite her own statements, Meloni’s base is mostly hostile to sanctions on Russia, and the League leader, Salvini, has raised doubts over their future.

We can expect Meloni and her new MPs to lean into attacks on immigrants, “LGBT lobbies”, trade unions and other groups they call the “leftwing establishment”. The call for a “naval blockade” in the Mediterranean seeks to harshen the existing EU border regime. The rightwing parties also plan vast tax cuts and the abandonment of jobseeker benefits. Even with a large majority, faced with today’s dramas it is not clear that they will be able to pursue their whole agenda. But the real fear is who this government will choose to offload the fallout of this crisis on to.

  • David Broder is the author of Mussolini’s Grandchildren: Fascism In Contemporary Italy

If the alternative is doing tuck rolls on way to the local shop, I’ll take the pig shit analogy all day.

When it’s being awarded by the forum’s very own Haley Joel Osment, it holds next to no value.

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I have you rightly rattled when you’re trying to imitate Malarkey’s most unhinged rants.

You’d be better off sticking to the Ewanist style which is your staple, suits you much better.

Lolz… Locked in another battle with the far right and declaring a victory :smiley:.

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Sorry for the late reply, I don’t get notifications on your replies because I have you on ignore.

All I’ll say is that its nice of you to show some uncharacteristic self awareness.

Life moves fast on the internet… Just a couple of posts ago i was supposedly rattled. Now youve taken to the ignore function and to telling me about it too.

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Life does indeed move fast Thomas, and you clearly aren’t able for it, which is why you’ve retreated into a far right fantasy world to try and escape your fear of what’s different to you. Congratulations on the three likes from the other thickos, three of the last people in the world any normal person would want likes from, but shure I suppose as long as you take comfort from being patted on the head by self-hating cranks, malcontents and bigots its all good.

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One hell of a projection here

Oh would you look who’s crawled in with shit all over them. Shouldn’t you be off researching 9/11 conspiracy theories like the freak you are?

Let’s just get this straight, the lad who doesn’t pay rent, tax, car insurance contributes nothing and has been kept afloat by the generosity of Fine Gael for years now while on the couch and internet all day every day thinks he has a grasp on reality?

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In the hypothetical event that I contributed nothing to society monetarily, which is not true, it would still be a hell of a lot more than you will ever contribute to anybody.

You have contributed nothing to anybody only misery and hatred, including against yourself.

There are robbing heroin addicts and hardened criminals who contribute a hell of a lot more of worth to society and give more love and respect to others and contribute more to society than you do.

It must be incredibly draining to revile everybody else that much. It must be even more draining to revile yourself that much.

Still, that’s the lifestyle you have chosen. Best of luck with it. You’ll need it.

Paying the minimum unit charge on a few cans of stella on a Friday night doesn’t really count kid

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Saturday night, buddy.

I’ve volunteered with clubs, charities, worked in social services for over ten years. I and others here do more for society in a week than anything you and the virtue signallers have ever done. Spoiler alert, you know it, it’s why you and them spend all day virtue singalling.

You live on the couch, retweeting, surviving on Fine Gael handouts, retweeting. And yet you think you are contributing something.

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Especially when you count in the decades of handouts on the other side of the balance sheet

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