Iraq / Middle East / Murder Thread


#2119

If it comes to this can we (Iran) win?


#2120

Iran’s allies have held their own in Yemen against fairly formidable opposition including US drone strikes. They are getting the upperhand in Syria & Iraq lately as well, though they are kind of on the side of the US in that one indirectly. Iranians are tough bastards and they are well battle hardened at this stage, in a straight fight they’d be hard bet. But the Sauds could have US backing in any conflict so they’d be up against it in a traditional war.


#2121

The Saudis wouldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag


#2122

Why are the US so anti-Iran?


#2123

Iran doesn’t start wars.

It finishes them.


#2124

1979 revolution when they toppled their placeman the Shah.


#2125

In exchange for pricing all their oil sales in US Dollars the US will do whatever the Saud’s want. In return they have a currency for which there is unlimited demand and as such they are free to fund themselves by printing money at will without eroding the underlying value of the dollar. As far as the US are concerned it’s cheap at twice the price.


#2126

They won’t have a US puppet running their state - enough to paint them as the devil and impose sanctions.


#2127

The Americans regard any resistance to their interests as aggression. Any country that wishes to remain independent and non-aligned is regarded as a terrorist state, bringing ‘instability’ to the region. The American posture towards Iran since it became clear that Iran would not blindly support US policy has been one of relentless aggression and violence.


#2128

I presume this was a Saudi inspired move against Iran this morning, the Saudis emboldened by Trumps backing last week.


#2129

Don’t forget Mrs. Strong and Stable.


#2130

From a few hours before the attack


#2131

What did Trump say or do in the Middle East last week, he has them all at each other.


#2132

Clearly Trump is trying to forge an alliance between the gulf states and Israel. It’s not the first time it’s been tried, it dates back to the Arab League initiative in 2002.


#2133

No outraged tweets from Twitler about the ISIS attack in Iran.

One doesn’t make outraged tweets about things one supports, I guess.

There are two kinds of ISIS as far as Trump is concerned.

Bad ISIS and good ISIS.

Today we saw the “good ISIS” in action.


#2134

Rumour has it it’s what did for saddam and gaddafi.


#2135

He told them to drive out the extremists.


#2136

yep


#2137

Iran & Venezuela pushed for OPEC to switch to trading oil in euros a few years back.
Remarkably both have had economic difficulties, sanctions and government upheaval since.

That article was about two months before America brought a large dollop of freedom their way post 9/11. An event with little of no links to Iraq & a whole trail of them to Saudi Arabia.

Gaddafi (or however it’s spelt) was of course trying to bring in a pan african dinar for the trade of oil & other resources in the run up to Libya’s liberation.

You sound like a crazed conspiracy nut when you say it out loud but it’s all easily verifiable, they don’t even really bother to hide it.


#2138

They don’t have to. If there’s one thing the media can be trusted on it’s to never ask the obvious questions