Iraq / Middle East / Murder Thread

[QUOTE=“Lazarus, post: 960754, member: 286”]Is ISIS the coolest name yet for a rebel/terrorist/insurgency/freedom fighter/ popular front/ type movement? Newspaper headline writers will be wetting themselves all over the world with the fun to be had with this one*

*Or would be if anyone still read the newspapers[/QUOTE]

Yeah, sure- Paul McGrath, he is in the ISIS - has a great ring to it :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=“Lazarus, post: 960754, member: 286”]Is ISIS the coolest name yet for a rebel/terrorist/insurgency/freedom fighter/ popular front/ type movement? Newspaper headline writers will be wetting themselves all over the world with the fun to be had with this one*

*Or would be if anyone still read the newspapers[/QUOTE]

Isis Crisis

Ice Ice Baghdad

The inevitable Muslim/Christian war edges closer everyday

The inevitable Muslim/Christian war edges closer everyday[/QUOTE]

Andalusia or El Andulus , depending on which side you are on ,will be the battlefield…:popcorn:

This looks like a good lad to follow for events in Iraq
https://twitter.com/mujaahid4life

Claiming that ISIS snipers have been activated from sleeper cells in Baghdad. Also that ISIS have begun their push to the capital but have met heavy resistance so far.

It sounds like a fucking credit card.

Asian Dawn. Now, that’s a cool name. I read about them in Time magazine.

Some craic in Iraq. Assad sent bombers to hit some ISIS targets in Iraq.

So to summarise at this stage:

The US has armed and trained both sides of the conflict namely ISIS & the Iraqi Government.
The Iraqi Governments allies are the Iran & Syria Governments, both of whom the USA will have serious trouble getting into bed with.
The Kurds are after quietly taking over a large part of the North of Iraq and seem to be the only ones in the conflict with a proper military. An independent Kurdistan seems a real prospect.

[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 970649, member: 332”]Some craic in Iraq. Assad sent bombers to hit some ISIS targets in Iraq.

So to summarise at this stage:

The US has armed and trained both sides of the conflict namely ISIS & the Iraqi Government.
The Iraqi Governments allies are the Iran & Syria Governments, both of whom the USA will have serious trouble getting into bed with.
The Kurds are after quietly taking over a large part of the North of Iraq and seem to be the only ones in the conflict with a proper military. An independent Kurdistan seems a real prospect.[/QUOTE]
The Kurds deserve a break in fairness. I worked with a few in Queensland out on the veg fields. Fuck me they lived work even though they never really had worked. Them lads had a tough Fucking life.

The Arabs won’t be able to stop ISIS on their own. The US needs to make friends with Iran. Without Iranian support the Iraqi Shias are facing a nightmare.

They’ve been stopped to date due to the Turks not wanting an independent Kurdistan on their borders, due to the large number of Kurds inside their border. Their chances are good now though as a few things have changed:

  1. The Turks are Sunnis where as the new Iraqi Government are Shiites. It seems the only people Muslims hate more than non muslims are other different muslims* (To make matters more complicated the Kurds are Sunnis aswell, but the wrong ethnicity.) It seems Turkey will let the Kurds off if it means taking power from the Shiites.
  2. The Kurds also have a bit of Oil going at the minute which they export through Turkey, the Turks are understandably happy enough with this.
  3. The US might just cut their losses and let Iraq go to the wall, hang onto the Kurds as allies in the region and let the rest of them go at it.

The real tipping point here is if Iran were to go in behind the Iraqi Shiites and the rest of the Sunnis went in against them.

The Israelis are due to level someone shortly as well @mickee321 which side are your boys lining up on? The whole thing is a bit of a powder keg.

I always thought the Iranians seemed the most reasonable of a bad bunch down there.

I haven’t been following this at all… Who are ISIS and how did they get so big?

They’re like Mance Rayder and his gang, if Mance was a Sunni jihadist.

[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 970666, member: 332”]They’ve been stopped to date due to the Turks not wanting an independent Kurdistan on their borders, due to the large number of Kurds inside their border. Their chances are good now though as a few things have changed:

  1. The Turks are Sunnis where as the new Iraqi Government are Shiites. It seems the only people Muslims hate more than non muslims are other different muslims* (To make matters more complicated the Kurds are Sunnis aswell, but the wrong ethnicity.) It seems Turkey will let the Kurds off if it means taking power from the Shiites.
  2. The Kurds also have a bit of Oil going at the minute which they export through Turkey, the Turks are understandably happy enough with this.
  3. The US might just cut their losses and let Iraq go to the wall, hang onto the Kurds as allies in the region and let the rest of them go at it.

The real tipping point here is if Iran were to go in behind the Iraqi Shiites and the rest of the Sunnis went in against them.

The Israelis are due to level someone shortly as well @mickee321 which side are your boys lining up on? The whole thing is a bit of a powder keg.[/QUOTE]

a good summary. The US has built up Kurdistan as a partner and a base of operations.

ISIS are so Islamic Al Qaeda are telling them to calm down.

Being associated with ISIS might hurt al Qaedas sponsorship revenue

ISIS, a great bunch of lads.
They apparently have a $2billion war chest, so they should be able to give it a right go.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/how-isis-war-chest-may-be-2b-growing-n132246

They should be able to make some serious moves in the summer transfer market with that kitty.

Already talk of them losing some endorsements.

They’ve made this helpful video which outlines there position.
Extraordinary footage.

They’ve declared a new state in the area they’ve carved out between Syria & Iraq and called it the islamic state. They’ve also declared it a Caliphate which means that all Sunnis are in theory under its control. Doubt the Kings out there will be too happy with that.