Fucking hell Sid that is just nuts, abhorrent.
[QUOTE=âJulio Geordio, post: 992117, member: 332â]Weâll be lucky if the US donât elect a right wing lunatic next time out, never mind someone whoâll stand up to Israel.
WW3 is coming, the only question is whether itâll be the Arabs the Russians or the Chinese the US take on.[/QUOTE]
I hope the Brits are sound enough to save us for a 3rd time.
[QUOTE=âThe Scouse Cafu, post: 992150, member: 2660â]http://www.israelnationalnews.com/ArâŚ6#.U9oM-_ldXCt
MK Moshe Feiglin
Moshe Feiglin is head of the Manhigut Yehudit [Jewish Leadership] faction in the Likud party and a new member of Knesset.
My Outline for a Solution in Gaza
Clear and concise, the steps towards achieving quiet in Gaza.
Ultimatum â One warning from the Prime Minister of Israel to the enemy population, in which he announces that Israel is about to attack military targets in their area and urges those who are not involved and do not wish to be harmed to leave immediately. Sinai is not far from Gaza and they can leave. This will be the limit of Israelâs humanitarian efforts. Hamas may unconditionally surrender and prevent the attack.
Attack â Attack the entire âtarget bankâ throughout Gaza with the IDFâs maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal. All the military and infrastructural targets will be attacked with no consideration for âhuman shieldsâ or âenvironmental damageâ. It is enough that we are hitting exact targets and that we gave them advance warning.
Siege â Parallel to the above, a total siege on Gaza. Nothing will enter the area. Israel, however, will allow exit from Gaza. (Civilians may go to Sinai, fighters may surrender to IDF forces).
Defense â Any place from which Israel or Israelâs forces were attacked will be immediately attacked with full force and no consideration for âhuman shieldsâ or âenvironmental damageâ.
Conquer â After the IDF completes the âsofteningâ of the targets with its fire-power, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.
Elimination- The GSS and IDF will thoroughly eliminate all armed enemies from Gaza. The enemy population that is innocent of wrong-doing and separated itself from the armed terrorists will be treated in accordance with international law and will be allowed to leave. Israel will generously aid those who wish to leave.
Sovereignty â Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever. Liberation of parts of our land forever is the only thing that justifies endangering our soldiers in battle to capture land. Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews. This will also serve to ease the housing crisis in Israel. The coastal train line will be extended, as soon as possible, to reach the entire length of Gaza.
According to polls, most of the Arabs in Gaza wish to leave. Those who were not involved in anti-Israel activity will be offered a generous international emigration package. Those who choose to remain will receive permanent resident status. After a number of years of living in Israel and becoming accustomed to it, contingent on appropriate legislation in the Knesset and the authorization of the Minister of Interior, those who personally accept upon themselves Israelâs rule, substance and way of life of the Jewish State in its Land, will be offered Israeli citizenship.[/QUOTE]
ah FFS sid,for balance could you not put up the opinions of the leader of Hamas who called for the extermination of an entire race last week
ah FFS sid,for balance could you not put up the opinions of the leader of Hamas who called for the extermination of an entire race last week[/QUOTE]
Wasnât the Palestinians who bombed the Boston Marathon, mate.
ah FFS sid,for balance could you not put up the opinions of the leader of Hamas who called for the extermination of an entire race last week[/QUOTE]
No. That is not âbalanceâ. There is no âbalanceâ to be found. The stock response to any criticism of Israel of âoh well Hamas are just as mental or worseâ does not wash, no amount of wrong on the opposing side âbalancesâ how depraved and morally wrong that article is. What makes it worse is that this guy is an elected of representative of supposedly the only democracy (I do not accept that it is a democracy) in the region. That article proposes ethnic cleansing. There is no other word for it. It comes from an intelligent and highly educated man who has no excuse not to know better. It sickens me.
the guy is a lunatic from a lunatic fringe of a moderate party (likud), he should be kicked out for making such assertions, no one is saying anything is right or wrong but this is an example of what you have in the middle east⌠Democracy does not work here as lunatics get elected, why do you think every arab country is under a dictatorship? look what happened in egypt when they tried
If the Iron Dome works as it should work and it seems to then Hamas launching rockets seems as sensible as a protester headbutting a police man wearing riot gear
Hamas aim must be to draw the response it has drawn from Israel to then provoke world outrage but the non-reaction of the Western and Arab world draws that sting
If Hamas gets no reaction then at some point it has to stop firing the rockets as it results in no advantage and just destruction. Classic game theory as used by the CIA mates.
Germany in the 1930âs & early 40âs had the same thought process that the current state of Israel has. Itâs utterly mind-boggling that having suffered the terrible atrocities they did, that they now see no problem in doing likewise.
Iâve a right mind to go down to the Israeli embassy with some Fr. Ted placards.
There must be some sort of Solution to this conflict. Something to end it once and for all.
Next question
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel
I would have no qualms about shooting this soldier in the head. He should be put down like a dog.
[QUOTE=âglasagusban, post: 992373, member: 1533â]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel
I would have no qualms about shooting this soldier in the head. He should be put down like a dog.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=âglasagusban, post: 992373, member: 1533â]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel
I would have no qualms about shooting this soldier in the head. He should be put down like a dog.[/QUOTE]
Murder. Pure and simple. Cunt.
Both sides are wrong in this conflict lads. Hamas and the Israeli Government are playing a chess game with civilian lives. The real disgrace is how cheap the lives of innocent peoples are when it comes to Politics. The sad thing is due to the hardlinerâs political power on both fronts I find it very difficult to ever see peace.
[QUOTE=âglasagusban, post: 992373, member: 1533â]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel
I would have no qualms about shooting this soldier in the head. He should be put down like a dog.[/QUOTE]
Thatâs outrageous.
I see Piers Morgan has called out Israel on Twitter and is now being accused of being anti-Semitic. You canât argue with these brain-washed people.
Religion has an awful lot to answer for, and itâs a load of shite the lot of it.
[QUOTE=âScrunchie, post: 992385, member: 1408â]Thatâs outrageous.
I see Piers Morgan has called out Israel on Twitter and is now being accused of being anti-Semitic. You canât argue with these brain-washed people.[/QUOTE]
Youâre an anti-semite for pointing this out, mate.
[QUOTE=âTheUlteriorMotive, post: 992294, member: 2272â]If the Iron Dome works as it should work and it seems to then Hamas launching rockets seems as sensible as a protester headbutting a police man wearing riot gear
Hamas aim must be to draw the response it has drawn from Israel to then provoke world outrage but the non-reaction of the Western and Arab world draws that sting
If Hamas gets no reaction then at some point it has to stop firing the rockets as it results in no advantage and just destruction. Classic game theory as used by the CIA mates.[/QUOTE]
that about sums it up really
[QUOTE=âScrunchie, post: 992385, member: 1408â]Thatâs outrageous.
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agreed
a disgusting post
what i have been saying since the beginning of the thread,
that is the sad truth,