[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1127327, member: 183”]Could be interesting - tonight at 9pm on BBC2:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05s4ytp[/QUOTE]
Was it any good Sid i forgot all about it.
Pretty much everybody forgot about it, I’d say.
I watched it, it was good but nothing firm in it surrounding finance. A lot of conjecture and assumption. The one shown the previous Wednesday was far a better programme.
ISIS/ISIL have captured Ramadi after another bad day at the office for the Iraqi Army.
Was reading up on this last night and the numbers involved seem fairly small? ISIS took control of the whole city with only 400 troops, while the defending army was about 1,000 in size. I’d imagine it would fairly hard to keep control of a city with an army of 400.
You would think so. Maybe that’s why they go around cutting heads off when they’re new in town?
The government are begging the Shia militias to confront ISIS for them now. I imagine those lads must be backed by Iran.
Mission accomplished.
The new mission is a search for a new Saddam. In hindsight hanging the old one was a bit wasteful.
[QUOTE=“Watch The Break, post: 1143896, member: 260”]You would think so. Maybe that’s why they go around cutting heads off when they’re new in town?
The government are begging the Shia militias to confront ISIS for them now. I imagine those lads must be backed by Iran.[/QUOTE]
And ISIS are backed by Saudi and the Man City crowd
The Iraqi army is a joke of an organisation at this stage.
ISIS come in with vastly inferior forces both numbers and tech wise, and they leg it.
Anywhere they’ve met resistance ISIS have struggled
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1144184, member: 332”]The Iraqi army is a joke of an organisation at this stage.
ISIS come in with vastly inferior forces both numbers and tech wise, and they leg it.
Anywhere they’ve met resistance ISIS have struggled[/QUOTE]
The report I read seemed to infer that ISIS were far better trained and equipped than the Iraqi army, but I would have assumed the Iraqi’s would have been left with the best of US equipment?
The Iraqi’s have the best of stuff and American training & air support. If ISIS have good weapons its chiefly because the Iraqis leave them behind as they leg it from any conflict.
The Kurds on the other hand have only been given rifles because the Turks don’t want them armed and they’ve been far more successful in holding back ISIS.
With the US & friends pretty much adopting a let them at it attitude for time being this will run and run.
If Iraq as a state cannot survive without a brutal and repressive dictatorship, should it survive at all? Given that what’s happening in the region now seems to be a Pan-Arab sectarian war the viability of ‘Iraq’ would have to be questioned.
It seems unlikely that an external actor can do anything to ‘fix’ the situation. This process was set in motion by Sykes-Picot and the disintegration of that framework seems to be a necessary step in creating whatever future borders the region is going to have.
[QUOTE=“Watch The Break, post: 1144396, member: 260”]If Iraq as a state cannot survive without a brutal and repressive dictatorship, should it survive at all? Given that what’s happening in the region now seems to be a Pan-Arab sectarian war the viability of ‘Iraq’ would have to be questioned.
It seems unlikely that an external actor can do anything to ‘fix’ the situation. This process was set in motion by Sykes-Picot and the disintegration of that framework seems to be a necessary step in creating whatever future borders the region is going to have.[/QUOTE]
I think Mickee has mentioned this before and said by his reckoning nearly all of those middle-eastern countries need a dictatorship in charge. That they are simply not capable as functioning as a democracy.
Certainly seems that way.
[QUOTE=“Watch The Break, post: 1144396, member: 260”]If Iraq as a state cannot survive without a brutal and repressive dictatorship, should it survive at all? Given that what’s happening in the region now seems to be a Pan-Arab sectarian war the viability of ‘Iraq’ would have to be questioned.
It seems unlikely that an external actor can do anything to ‘fix’ the situation. This process was set in motion by Sykes-Picot and the disintegration of that framework seems to be a necessary step in creating whatever future borders the region is going to have.[/QUOTE]
A load of arbitrary lines drawn on a map. Unfortunately rather than redrawing the lines in a more realistic way we are going to have them redrawn militarily by the looks of it.
A good map to understand who’s what where.
Saudi Arabia is far bigger than I thought.
Ya, fuck all but desert though.
I wouldn’t mind mind having fuck all but desert if it was sitting on top of billions of barrels of oil.
The world powers could put an end to this fighting over religion shit once and for all, with all this business about whose religion is best etc if they just told the world what they know about aliens visiting this planet since the earliest days of man. That would show these jokers that their religion is a sham and how miniscule we are in the scheme of things and the aliens could wipe us out in a second. Then they can on with enjoying themselves in the middle east, start eating chicken and pork for the first time, and take those full body garments and towels off their heads. Start watching netflix etc. Wasters.