Probably around 8.30ish.
Written media has nowhere near the power Dunphy and the lads have though Rocko. Opinions are formed immediately and are slow to change, so what they say straight after the game has huge influence. Besides, people with just a passing interest in the game probably don’t go to the bother of reading that much about it. Hell I don’t even bother at this stage, but that’s mainly because there are so few people writing about the game in papers whose opinions I have any respect for.
It’s all, basically, Stan’s fault.
Undoubtedly RTÉ has more influence but I think one opinion informs the other. You get journalists on the radio bleating the same opinions that they’re writing which are the same as what the pundits said on RTÉ and then you get clowns texting in shows repeating what Dunphy said and it all becomes circular and self-fuelling.
I do think there’s always been a decent bit of balance on Off The Ball to be fair to them and they have shown a real interest in the team, even when they were doing badly.
Think a better fella to compare Hayes to would be Kevin Kilbane and I’d say Hayes got more of a hooha. Both are likeable characters but Kilbane has been one of the most abused Irish sportsmen ever. Hayes has often been at the centre of a shit Irish scrum in certain and basically at fault for losses yet he is never called anything but a ligind.
I’ve often said this Braz among my own friends it’s very obvious, me and a couple of lads who go to the games are never half as critical. There is often an awful bad atmosphere of booing etc at games recently and reached near rock bottom at the Slovakia game which was the worst atmosphere I’ve experienced. Although the performance didn’t help in fairness!
Think glennon’s comments were made around time of the Stan era in his defence although they were ridiculous in any case. They are what an awful lot of people think though.
Saipan I reckon. That’s when the massive negativity crept in really. Big Mick at the end and Kerr suffered a lot of stick. Although it seemed to be there in that doc someone posted up a while back about one of Mick’s early campaigns so maybe we’re all talking shite and it was always there only we were young lads and didn’t notice it when we were collecting stickers. Even the kids these days are fierce negative but that’s more to do with all encompassing domination of the Premiership.
The comparison with rugby is a different issue really but the difference in treatment is very notable. Access to players, success and class were all mentioned tonight on Off the Ball. The fact the you can rattle into someone and look like you are ‘trying’ easier in rugby makes a difference to the clueless fuckwits out there too who think the soccer lads are just ‘strolling round the place’.
Agree on the Macedonia game, thought the criticism after that game was ridiculous. But Armenia at home we were pretty poor.
Surely it’s better for people to analyse games instead of the happy clappy bullshit that surrounds the smugby game?
Giving credit to lads for showing up is a bit ridiculous too.
James McClean taking a bit of abuse on twitter for declaring for the ROI. Has retorted saying
[b]James Mc Clean[/b] [s]@[/s][b]JMcC_23[/b] [/url] [url=“http://twitter.com/#%21/JMcC_23/status/155255460361015297”]2h
Following my dream, mind was never going to change, latest barage of insults come right on queue [s]#[/s][b]irish[/b]
No problem with people analysing games. I don’t think that is what Dunphy does though. He’s in the entertainment business baby. He’ll say whatever he thinks will get him the most attention, which is why he bandies about words like “disgrace”, “shameful”, etc.
i think people like Gola and braz have to understand the live product is different to the product sky sport gives them-they will alwaysbe frustated as they dont go to enough live games to understand football-the frustration of not having the different camera angles they are used to frustrates them and clouds their judgement
Not really sure what you are getting at here mate. I very much enjoy the live product and my posts here are in fact criticising the TV product.
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+1
Braz is very temperamental for a homosexual. I believe the popular term for him would be a queen
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Interesting strand to the thread regarding the media. We discussed it before on & off but I thought the criticism of the team on the whole was bizarre. Obviously there were certain games where we didn’t play well and some flak was justified. I was pretty annoyed with the Slovakia home game for example. But there were other games like Macedonia and Armenia at home where I thought we played fairly well (and the consensus among the people I spoke to at the game & in the pub afterwards was the same) and then I was completely bemused to hear about the TV analysis and thoroughly disagreed with it when I watched it back. But yeah, I think there’s an element of tards not really having a clue & rehashing the view of Dunphy et al.
I actually just watched this documentary that was aired over Christmas. Nothing new in it really but a nice review of the qualifying campaign with the likes of Dunne, Doyle, Fahey, Hunt and Ward giving their recollections of the individual games along the way.
Cheers for that. Thought Ward and Hunt spoke well, nice change instead of hearing from Robbie and O’Shea and Dunne all the time in interviews etc.
The music for the Moscow and Armenian away games was brilliantly stereotypical also, like something from a Bond movie!
James McClean tweeting in Irish tonight. That should be enough to earn him a call up to the squad.
nice goal from ciaran clark here. was playing centre half at the time.
dunne comedy error for their one. he has made a couple of bad fuck ups lately with the chelsea peno and now this one.
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/bristol-rovers-1-aston-villa-3/
Aston Villa have confirmed the loan signing of Robert Keane, pending FIFA clearance.
Ah I’m in heaven, I’ve dreamed of this day since I was a boy
No doubt whatsoever bout the Irish side in the UK now
Given, Dunne, Stevens, Clark, Ireland and Robbie Keane