Ireland politics (Part 1)

[anon7035031]

The public, like this forum, is made up of a few educated people and a lot of simpletons. You’re talking about a country that voted for Dev in droves for 50 years.

[balbec]

The same Niall Collins that was ashamed to canvas as FF the last time?

[Juhniallio]

Where do you live @labane?

[anon7035031]

In the state that first elected to public office the greatest union leader and liberal Democrat to have walked this noble land.

[iron_mike]

@ProjectX

@iron_mike

Ff will do a deal with Sf before Fg. They wont bend over for Kenny. Best scenario is theyll support a minority government

It is very unlikely that FF will go into government with SF / IRA. That would be appalling to a large chunk of FF voters.

I agree that FF supporting a FG led minority government could be possible.

Lets say Adams agrees to go after the 1916 hula
Do you think it would be more palatable then?

[anon7035031]

FF would go into government with the Nazis to regain power.

[Ambrose_McNulty]

@anon7035031

In the state that first elected to public office the greatest union leader and liberal Democrat to have walked this noble land

North Korea?

[anon7035031]

Fail

[iron_mike]

@anon7035031

FF would go into government with the Nazis to regain power.

Thats my feeling too.
I just feel there could be a sting in the tail here.
The only thing with SF is the left vote could be so fragmented, they will not gain from transfers. You could have a plethora of left wing independents in a hape of constituencies all taking voted off each other. This would leave SF in a quandry. Run a second candidate in some constituencies to try and at leasr grab some second and third preferences

[Elvis_Brandenberg_Kr]

The next Dail will elect 8 fewer TD’s which reduces the number of seats to 158. With Seán Barrett returned automatically, I’d expect the breakdown to more or less as follows:

Fine Gael - 61
Fianna Fáil - 41
Sinn Féin - 19
Labour - 12
Renua Ireland - 2
Independents incl Social Democrats - 21
Green Party - 1

[iron_mike]

@Elvis_Brandenberg_Kr

The next Dail will elect 8 fewer TD’s which reduces the number of seats to 158. With Seán Barrett returned automatically, I’d expect the breakdown to more or less as follows:

Fine Gael - 61
Fianna Fáil - 41
Sinn Féin - 19
Labour - 12
Renua Ireland - 2
Independents incl Social Democrats - 21
Green Party - 1

Id say ff fg and labour would snap your hand off for that result

[iron_mike]

Will todays decision re abortion add or relieve pressure for Enda?

[Juhniallio]

In a weird anomaly, pp have eamon Ryan 8/15 to win a seat but have the greens at 5/6 to get more than 0.5 seats.
Chàaaaaaaaaarge!

[Juhniallio]

Which second member of renua do you see getting elected?

[Juhniallio]

So you’re measuring public anger in ireland but you live in the states? And you think most of us have got it wrong?

[iron_mike]

Is hubby not a td?

I reckon they have a shout in Carlow /Kilkenny

Bobby Aylward and John McGuinness are shoe ins. I think John Paul Phelan will hold on and his transfers will bring in Deering. If there is a shit load if leftys running, it will not do SF any good and they wont get any transfers.
The renua lad will get some from ff and fg.
I predict he will get elected without reaching the quota

[GeoffreyBoycott]

@tazdedub

Kelly will struggle to get in I think. Can also see him jumping ship to FG.

@ProjectX

Kelly will not get elected.

Geography won’t help Kelly. He’s based in Portroe and most of the old Tipperary North constituency, north of Nenagh is gone into the new Offaly constituency. Not sure what sort of a vote getter Kelly is. There’ll be two populist candidates to contend with in the unified Tipperary constituency in Lowry and Mattie McGrath. Kelly was in a court case about two years ago against a next door neighbour widow pensioner over a right of way over a lane. He won it, but you’d wonder how something like that would play on the ground locally.

[ProjectX]

Lowry, Mattie, Hayes, Coonan, 2 FF, Healy : - all in with a shout. Can’t see where kelly will get enough votes to be elected.

He had a great chance being a minister and absolutely blew it. Comes across very badly.

[dodgy_keeper]

TD’s I’d like to see NOT re-elected in the next general election. Keeping it to one per party/grouping.

FG - Shatter. Cunt.

Lab - Kelly. See above.

FF - Dara Calleary. Tries to appear the new breed of FF TD but every bit as smug and pompous as any of his predecessors. Narrowly beats off competition from Niall Collins and Billy Kelleher.

SF - Aengus O’Snodaigh and his ink cartridges.

Socialists - Ruth Coppinger. Blame, blame, blame. Anti everything.

Independents/others - Claire/Clare Daly.

[corner_back]

According to the Vincent Browne debate previewer the last seat in Offaly is between them and Sinn Fein. Sinn Fein’s best candidate isn’t running so they have a shout here. If I was putting money on it, I’d say Offaly folk would prefer to put in a second Fianna Fail lad. I’ve no idea who is running for them other than Cowne