I donāt believe in abortions as a form of contraceptionā¦ Iād be staunchly in favour of passing the motion but leaning more towards where a womanās life is in danger, fatal foetal etc and of course victims of rape and abuseā¦ For regular Janes, Iād be limiting it to a very short windowā¦
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While I do think it might pass, I know a quite a few people who voted yes to gay marriage but will vote no to this unless they do an excellent job of convincing people that abortion on demand isnāt the next step.
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Sticking in murderā¦nice touchā¦especially when itās never a choice youāll have to make, you stupid cunt.
Weāll wait and see. In reality we are very out of step with most of the developed world and think that the outcome is going to be an eye opener to how backward the current situation in Ireland is/was - same as marriage equality and divorce were.
Not quite that far!
Would be fairly moderate but I just canāt willingly vote for something knowing that foetuses/children will be terminated.
Anyway thereās going to be nine months of to and fro regarding this issue, thereāll be horrible extremists on both sides so best not to get into it too deeply at this early stage.
Governments promising theyāll do x y or z after a referendum is dangerous road to go down, dunno how theyāll play this one.
Thatās what it is in most cases mate. Iād actually be of a similar view to yourself. If the womanās life is in danger or it was a rape case I would allow it but not at all for regular people. As I said it depends on how its worded which way Iāll vote
So people who hold a different view to yours are ābackwardā?
Thatās what I mean when I say people on the liberal side jump off the handle at people who hold a differing view.
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That is happening now dodgy, they are being terminated. That fact should be the starting point for this. Then you can legislate to limit it, make it safe, whatever else.
I think youād struggle to find any women who believe in abortion as a form of contraception.
Isnāt that allowed now?
Where did I say that? I said the situation is backward.
Irish women get abortions every day and we put our heads the sand and pretend it isnāt happening. That is backward.
Throwing in words like murder wonāt get us anywhereā¦ Some of the greatest modern minds have tried to determine what life isā¦ Is it consciousness? Is it a semi formed foetus? Or even a few weeks old foetus? You need to determine what life is before you can call it murderā¦
Lowering the voting age is a good one anyway, at least we can all agree on that.
You know what I mean mateā¦thereās plenty of recorded cases in England where women have gotten 5/6 terminations.
Fair enough
Nothing wrong with the current voting age.
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Thatās true, but being out of step with the rest of the world makes fuck all difference to whether it will pass. Our culture is our culture. And the reality is that abortion is very rarely spoken of and is still seen as shameful in some ways. Otherwise why would so many women hide the fact that theyāre travelling for abortions.
Happy enough with current voting age.
Donāt see any need to change.
Agree- itās the other end of spectrum should be tackled. No voting once your over 70
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