It says âthe entiretyâ?
She wouldnât cheer you up anyhow.
shudder. i wouldnt do her with yours you sick cunt.
the much missed @HBV was the lad who had the horn for her
Youâve just ruined my morning Apple Strudel
Sheâs very personable and a very nice lady.
Ah yes. Bacik and Tracy Piggot. A man of unique taste.
It was @artfoley
Think they played tonsil hockey one night in their youth ( lot of drugs involved allegedly )
bit of projection there Mr Nice.
are you sure it wasnt you who cmbined with bacik on the back of a harvbester but cant remember now due to your (allegedly) prolific drug use
Iâm anti war & anti drug use.
Read the last paragraph.
Will you copy and paste that, please?
In 2015, during his tenure as Speaker of the US House of Representatives, Ohio congressman John Boehner said of leadership: âA leader without followers is simply a man taking a walk.â
The political assassination of Alan Kelly by his own party on Wednesday was the result of months of internal strife, fuelled by an irrevocable disconnect between the leader and his troops.
Unhappy with their stagnant poll ratings, but more crucially by Kellyâs lack of desire or ability to progress the partyâs social democratic vision, there was dissension in the ranks.
âThey werenât happy with his style, they have been talking amongst themselves for a long time,â a source said.
It has been noted, however, that unlike the previous administration which involved âbackstabbing and people constantly talking behind each othersâ backsâ, issues had been raised with the leader and his approach was openly questioned on a number of matters.
âHe listened, he tried to keep everyone happy, but obviously that didnât workâ.
A meeting was called on Thursday of last week to allow TDs and senators to air their grievances on how they felt the party was being run.
We understand that Kelly initially resisted going to that meeting. Fearing some kind of an ambush, he said heâd meet people individually in his office.
This response âwas received very poorly," one TD says.
TD Ivana Bacik (centre-left) consoles former Labour Party leader Alan Kellyâs after his resignation speech outside Leinster House.
Called for 1pm on Thursday, the emergency meeting to allow âAlan to hear what everyone thoughtâ ended abruptly at 1.55pm with Kelly indignant and his party colleagues determined to oust him.
At the meeting, each member of the parliamentary party spoke at length about their concerns about his leadership style, including those Alan Kelly counted as his closest supporters.
There were concerns about his personal leadership style and the culture within the party emanating from his office, sources have told us, saying: âEverybody was very honest with him, and absolutely none of the concerns were about polling.â
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One source said Mr Kelly âgot upsetâ and cried during the meeting, leading others, including Marie Sherlock, to get upset as well.
The tone and tenor of Mr Kellyâs defiant response to his colleagues spelt the end of his leadership.
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He failed to address any of the central allegations, sources say, and as a result, his authority over his party immediately evaporated.
âThe collective room was lost, and he knew he had no authority,â one source said. âWhen that meeting ended, we were immediately talking about the next leader.â
Another said: âIt was bad, it was really bad. People were in some way shocked by his response, but it stiffened a building resolve that the party needed to move on.â
Several sources have said that the unrest within the party had more to do with Kellyâs âaloofâ but abrasive style of leadership which was not very collegiate.
In the wake of the fractious meeting, there were âlotsâ of conversations, WhatsApp messages, and calls over the weekend.
Senior sources said that Mr Kelly âprobablyâ could have rescued his position over the weekend, but did not make attempts to mend fences by calling TDs and senators.
âWe found it very difficult to hold it together over the weekend, trying to be disciplined; no one said a word over the weekend, and I think he found some relief it didnât leak,â one TD said. âWe were asking him to genuinely reflect, one of us easily couldâve leaked it and forced him to go, but we didnât.â
Driven by Sean Sherlock and Duncan Smith, who had nominated Kelly for the leadership, it was agreed to convene a meeting of the party on Sunday, behind Kellyâs back, to decide his fate. Some attended in person, some virtually.
âAt that meeting, we knew that we all wanted to move on, not all for the same reasons,â said a source.
It was decided Mark Wall, Sherlock, and Smith would approach Kelly on Tuesday last and give him the option âto do it in his own way or he would face a unanimous motion of no confidenceâ.
There had been a meeting scheduled by the party to discuss its poor poll ratings, but the trio stood that meeting down and confronted Kelly.
They said: âWe want you to reflect on that, you can control what can be said if you resign, you canât if you face a vote.â
The meeting went on for two hours.
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Smith said he, Sherlock, and Wall went to face Kelly to tell him âhe had lost the dressing roomâ.
âItâs a very sad day for us,â he said. âIt was not a nice meeting.â
Rather than push it to an executive council decision, Kelly quickly made the decision to resign on Tuesday.
He went home, talked to his family, and told the party he wanted to do Leadersâ Questions on Wednesday and Thursday.
It was the plan that he wanted to announce his resignation at 2pm on Thursday in Buswells Hotel, where a room had been booked, but word leaked, and the Irish Examiner broke the story shortly before 5pm on Wednesday.
"Everything was spinning out of control, we couldnât hold the story, we couldnât work, so the resignation was brought forward to 7pm on Wednesday,â a source said.
One representative says although the narrative of Kellyâs demise has been poor polling, this is not accurate.
"The election is years away, thereâs no impending doom, people were worried about his demeanour. He was not enjoying himself, he got lots of good media and wasnât getting anywhere.
âIf he thought we were undermining him or the media was against him, then he could have pointed at that, but he couldnât.â
Kelly, surrounded by his assassins, took to the plinth to face the media and announce his resignation having won the only byelection and without contesting either a local or general election.
Reflecting since his announcement, sources have said that Kellyâs departure was âinevitableâ and that he âhas not been himselfâ for a number of months as the polling quagmire kept the party from getting any bounce from his leadership.
A senior source said that Mr Kelly had been âdetachedâ for some time and the loss of key advisors left him isolated in his role.
However, the partyâs inability to cut into the polling support held by the Government parties or Sinn FĂŠin, coupled with questions about Mr Kellyâs own personal style, became a recurring theme of conversations in the last two months.
But the bottom line is Kelly did not enjoy the support of his own colleagues.
âItâs very different to what happened in 2018 with what happened to Brendan, at least Brendan had the backing of most of the parliamentary party, whereas Alan didnât,â a source said.
It was suggested that the staffing issue was jumped on as a way of making it more palatable to oust Mr Kelly.
âThis was going to happen, there was always going to be something he was going to do or say, or he would rub someone up the wrong way, and that would be used.â
Now gone as leader at the age of 46, Kelly has reportedly already told people he will not stand at the next general election.
Whether it was his presence in the 2011-2016 government, his proposed appointment of a relative to a job which came a cropper, or his aloof leadership, this coup has put an end to the leader the Labour diehards never really wanted.
The line about being linked to the 2011-16 govt is really being pushed.
It must be a way of trying to keep OâRiordan from standing in the leadership contest.
The Labour parliamentary party met in the back Ford Mondeo I believe
Are you a Labour man @Juhniallio? I
thought Kelly was an excellent member of the opposition at holding the government to account and I also thought that rest of the Labour party representatives were useless, talentless hacks who has already pissed away enough time and political capital by putting howlin in charge of them. I doubt that the new leader will make any more inroads given how useless the rump of them are but I suppose weâll see.
If Ivana gets it then An Taoiseach will be the only leader of a major political party in Ireland who was not privately educated.
leo was privately educated
Oh for fuck sake.