Ireland politics (Part 2)

Iā€™m curious as to what is the issue here?

He owns an apartment - hardly excessive for a man in his 40ā€™s etc

His partner buys a house and Leo moves in with him.

It would seem a bit imprudent to sell his apartment in that situation.

Do you suggest that he leaves it empty?

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It would seem to be that as he is a landlord and also in a position in government where he can push through legislation that is favourable to landlords or can be influenced to get legislation through in favour of landlords.

What situation ? :hushed:

Do you think it is possible for politicians to pursue policy choices that are not linked or contrary to their own personal economic situations? Or is it only the politician you like who can do that?

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Iā€™m no fan of Leo but on that basis no politician could be allowed to be involved in anything they could have a perceived interest in.

Half the dail are teachers on a career break so theyā€™d be eliminated from an education portfolio .

Unfortunately none of the opposition politicians, who are renters, will be able to credibly look to favour tenants in a new government

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Bertie Ahern was the perfect minister for finance now that you say it. No bank account, no conflict

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Surely he was biased in favour of the horse racing industry considering all the money he won on the horses?

They are all biased fuckers and have all been bought off to go a certain way. Canā€™t trust any of the fuckers, if they told you the sky was blue, youā€™d still have to go out an check. Especially those Green cunts.

No house for most of the time either, living in an oulā€™ flat above the constituency office.
There was a fridge in the kitchen according to records though. A real man of the people :+1:

Bertie would have been some man to get round an energy cost crisis. Heā€™d have a tumble dryer, air fryer, washing machine, fridge, dishwasher, etc all going inside in that constituency office and would have it up against expenses at year end

Are we criticising Leo for owning property?

Iā€™m curious too what the issue is about Varadkar registering as a landlord because he has one spare property. And I canā€™t stand Varadkar.

Iā€™d like somebody to lay out the pros and cons of this debate about this eviction ban in a fair and reasonable form.

I donā€™t know very much about it.

To my untrained eye, it seems that the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

It seems to me that successive governments, mostly Fine Gael led governments, have failed completely on housing, failed to build nearly enough public housing and handed over control of that NAMA far too easily and at too cheap a price. And that the dice is loaded heavily in favour of land owners and land hoarders etc. I remember those protests about housing some years back and it was very difficult not to agree with them in general terms.

Yet it also seems to make to make eminent sense to me that an eviction ban is overkill, because that can lead to abuse of the system, possibly widespread abuse, such as people just not bothering to pay anything in terms of rent or mortgage, and results in less people willing to rent out their properties, which leads to higher rents overall. Like, the Beadeses of Killiney and those people in Roscommon were clearly complete piss takers and thereā€™s so much bullshit rhetoric about ā€œthe Land Leagueā€ and ā€œfor what died the sons of Roisinā€ and all this bollocksology. In general I donā€™t like to see anybody being evicted from anywhere but some people are complete piss takers.

It seems to me that public debate about housing is of a very low quality with little nuance. I feel this myself because I donā€™t feel particularly informed despite having consumed a lot of public debate on this subject over the last six or eight years.

Could somebody try to enlighten me a bit?

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They were elected to serve the peopleā€¦ The state of housing/renting/homelessness, health (this is currently obscene), immigration and Iā€™d add mental health crisis in there tooā€¦

They have utterly failed. All these issues and more have gotten progressively worse under FFG, not better. Cooking the books as a tax haven seems to be enough to wool the dullards tho, but this wonā€™t last too much longer either. Europe and beyond have called out our bookingā€¦

The problem is thereā€™s no viable opposition

That doesnā€™t enlighten me in any way. Itā€™s mighty fine shouting though. Thanks anyway.

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I was agreeing rather than trying to enlighten youā€¦ Shur you have your cat for that.

Itā€™s quite simple really. In an emergency situation the eviction ban protects the most vulnerable. In an emergency thatā€™s whose side you come down on.

Is there not a fair argument to say that sometimes emergency measures can have unintended consequences and make things worse?

It seems to me like this could be such a situation.

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Youā€™re on the money here. Sure Matt could turf leo out anytime. Especially if Leo keeps behaving like a horny teenager and shifting random lads on night club dancefloors.

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