Ireland politics (Part 3)

And after that the Nazi headbanger Matthew Goodwin predictably went on to defend billionaires against any tax increases.

ā€œDefend billionaires, target asylum seekersā€ is the mantra of headbangers everywhere, including on this forum.

Not really strictly politics but I’m enjoying the Virgin media show Dinner with the Enemy. Couple of fairly well known twittery people on it like Ben Scallan from gript and the beardy hardy bucks lad on team rightie and Izzy kamikaze and the one who got beaten up by the soldier on team lefty. I’ve always maintained that proper debate on controversial issues is the way to go and this is some start at least albeit in a packaged for entertainment big brother/traitors kind of way. At least you get to hear actual opposing view points voiced. A lad in his 40s from carlow who openly admitted to having gone buck mental because of covid and turned into a full on conspiracy theorist with a Mohican haircut was the first one to be voted off.

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A bit part unfunny actor feom Mayo is the best the headbangers can get?

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Blueshirt assumes everything is about money shocker.

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Of course they are getting enriched by it. There’s a whole industry built up around this thing now.

Property owners are getting paid for the use of their property.

Should they be letting out their properties for free?

I thought private property rights was the core of right wing ideology?

Meanwhile there’s a worldwide industry of hate which is thriving and utterly out of control - it’s exceedingly profitable to spread hatred of vulnerable minorities - but you don’t hear any of the people whining hysterically about asylum seekers mentioning the massive industry of hate that exists.

When there were actual housing protests back in 2018, where were any of the people now complaining about asylum seekers? They were nowhere, that’s where they were.

None of this is about housing. None of these Irish people that are bogusly claiming their racism is about housing wants to live in a paint factory.

Nobody wants to live in a paint factory, except perhaps Mayo footballers living in Dublin.

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Yeah US funded propagandists whose entire existence and livelihood depends on relentlessly peddling lies and shouting donwn others are really going to have their views changed by a ā€œdebateā€ where they aren’t there to debate. Not.

Platforming them is a bloody good way to legitimise them and make them more popular, though.

ā€œThe way to make Nigel Farage less popular is to put him on Question Time every other week.ā€

With that kind of ideology you’d make a great clueless Morgan McSweeney guru for Fianna Fail or Fine Gael.

All you need to house people in these kips is a fire cert. The conditions are horrendous. A huge amount of the people I saw in the airport would have been far better off returning to where they had come from (Greece, Italy and Spain) but they came here because they were made promises by people traffickers and Green Party TDs that neither had any intention of keeping

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Yes but that isn’t why people are out rioting and demonstrating.

And shure as we all know ā€œthese spongers get the best of everything, they’re taking everything from us.ā€

Why should Greece, Italy and Spain take every asylum seeker that arrives in Europe while other countries take none?

Send them back to the country of origin.

Ireland is full. Every expert and politician now recognises this… we simply do not have the capacity to take more right now.

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We havent jails to hold the cunts of our own.

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I don’t think people should riot about anything. They’re racist morons.

They don’t. But that’s the system. I’d centralise it and make people European refugees, paid for out of a centralised fund. But you’d need a hard border on this island for that to work, I fear.

I have no problem with us going to Greece and grabbing a few. It’s far better than the current system of ā€œengage with criminal, get fake id, be in debt to criminal, arrive and say asylum, live in paint factory on no money yet expected to pay traffickers backā€ that we have now.

Despite the constant mud slung at me by the tampon sisters on here, I’m pro immigration/asylum but to a point… but like most sensible people, to a point.

Almost a third of our current population weren’t born here - up from 12% in the 2011 census . We’ve been the fastest growing population in Europe over the last 5 years… i think we’ve been very fair and donen our share. It’s time to slow it down and get our house in order. Every system is creaking

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I travelled through east Limerick the other day and there were empty buildings everywhere.

But sure who cares about facts when we have racist gobshites relentlessly peddling lying slogans of hate.

Empty buildings all over Limerick and Dublin cities too.

We don’t have an immigration crisis. We have an online fascist bullshit crisis.

Richard Boyd Barrett on with Claire Byrne now discussing his throat cancer diagnosis and its treatment. His voice is altered noticeably but it’s a result of the burning of what I took to be the tumour. He’s had a fairly rigorous few months but he certainly didn’t wrap the process up in floral bouquets. He’s having a rocky period but tells us that he’s dodged the bullet this time.

I was never a fan of his but he’s been very clear, honest, informative and had nothing but praise for each and every person who looked after him. He’s had a really tough 6 months.

I wish him the best for the future. We don’t know how well off we are sometimes……

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With complex legal issues and rights attached to them… is that not the point that Batigol and i are also making? Batigol highlighting how there’s an industry of fucking people into shit buildings bought for a song and earning big money to house refugees…

Empty buildings is just an empty slogan.

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The slogan guy suddenly cares about complex legal isues and rights concerning buildings - but only when it suits his slogans.

He’s not concerned with complex legal rights and issue surrounding humans however.

Ah would ya look, the sloganeerer is getting embarrassed about being correctly called a sloganeerer.

Aren’t the Irish government spending an absolute fortune buying houses at the moment using up all that American tax money? If buildings are left empty for five or ten years surely something could be done.