Irish soccerball nil - That boy Jinky will save us (Part 2)

[Cheasty]

@Bandage

Aside from convincing some impressionable or biased types he’s doing a good job, I can’t think of any notable achievement by Spock in the role. By that I mean something that stood out as being impressive or unlikely to have been done by another manager. You could argue beating Scotland at home but they’re Scotland & that’s literally one thing. It wasn’t backed up & there’s absolutely nothing to suggest any kind of sustained improvement is imminent.

The Scotch had been knocked out of the World Cup 10 days before and their players had probably all been consuming copious quantities of deep fried pizza slices, haggis, Highland Toffee, Irn Bru and Tennents Extra to make them feel better.

[neilld]

I sense he is their leader.

[Arthur]

You’re probably right and maybe this proves it. It’s a phenomenal kick in the guts for the whole league and domestic scene here in general though. His appointment offered a few LOI heads I was talking to genuine hope of a new respect and a proper integrated player pathway. Would be interested to hear what the LOI fans or people involved with football on tfk in general think.

[Cheasty]

@Arthur

You’re probably right and maybe this proves it. It’s a phenomenal kick in the guts for the whole league and domestic scene here in general though. His appointment offered a few LOI heads I was talking to genuine hope of a new respect and a proper integrated player pathway. Would be interested to hear what the LOI fans or people involved with football on tfk in general think.

See I always hear slogans like “proper integrated player pathway” and I genuinely wonder what this jargon is supposed to mean.

Does it mean that players stay in Ireland into, say, their early 20s? You’re unlikely to make it by doing that because you’re not exposed to a high enough level of football.

The problem the League Of Ireland has is that it has England on its doorstep and it can never, ever compete against that. It can’t compete in terms of football standard and it can’t compete in terms of wages. If you’re good enough you want to get out of the League Of Ireland, not stay in it. It’s very hard to develop a league that way.

In saying that, the nature of the problem the League of Ireland faces is not unique. If you take, say, the Brazilian league, this too is now considered second rate. All the top Brazilian players go to Europe. If you’re good enough there you get out to go to Europe at the first chance. But obviously there’s a massive difference in terms of population and general football standard. It’s like the difference between the Leitrim SFC and the Dublin SFC.

[EstebanSexface]

I’m involved with football, I can’t see how Kenny failing here is a kick in the guts for the domestic scene, the fact they appointed him was a minor miracle and show’s they’re willing to take a chance on a LOI manager, Duff will be in the reckoning to succeed him.

The managers position should be awarded on merit, to the best available candidate within the constraints. If that’s a LOI man, then great, if not, it’s not an indictment on the League. Everyone knows the standard of the league.

The real positives for me are when I look at the underage squads and you see a lot more young lads now getting capped out of the academies here

Sounds like your buddies had designs on the senior managers job

[Cheasty]

Funny enough Roddy Collins was one of the few people prepared to tell some home truths about the League Of Ireland. If I remember this conversation rightly, and I think I do, he blithely stated that the League Of Ireland wasn’t near even League Two level in England, and probably below Vauxhall Conference level. I think that’s why it turned into such a barney, it met with furious reaction from Stuey Byrne and Ger O’Brien. The truth is Collins was right.

@Sidney

There was an absolutely smashing barney between Roddy Collins, Stuart Byrne and St. Pat’s captain Ger O’Brien on tonight’s show. Started about 8:40 and ran well over its time until about 9:10. Roddy Collins said Sunday’s final was a terrible match, O’Brien then laid into Collins for Derry playing terrible football when Collins was manager early in the season, and then Byrne laid into Collins towards the end for turning the converstion into a joke, “The FAI must be absolutely laughing at us listening to this. This last half an hour has been pointless. The whole conversation has been an absolute farce.”

[Cheasty]

@EstebanSexface

I’m involved with football, I can’t see how Kenny failing here is a kick in the guts for the domestic scene, the fact they appointed him was a minor miracle and show’s they’re willing to take a chance on a LOI manager, Duff will be in the reckoning to succeed him.

If Damien Duff gets the Irish job it won’t be off the back of managing Shelbourne, it’ll be because he’s Damien Duff and he’s an Irish football legend who made a serious impact at the World Cup finals and won the Premier League. His time playing under Jose Mourinho would be of more benefit to him managing Ireland than his time managing Shelbourne.

Even with Duff’s legendary status it would be a total gamble, he has no managerial record at any decent level.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

eh, spock was called out as a dud by the Rovers fans

[EstebanSexface]

is he a manager in the LOI or not?

[caulifloweredneanderthal]

Spock will probably end up back managing Dundalk to LOI titles

[Julio_Geordio]

Be funny if he took over Bohs and got them relegated

[StoneCold]

@Cheasty

The only exception to all this is the singular figure of Damien Richardson, who sounds like a working class lad from Dublin who was hothoused by Betty Ann Norton and then the Smurfit Business School before doing a certificate at DBS in The History Of Ancient Greece.

Damien Richardson seems like the kind of lad who would have a vinyl collection of Andean Panpipe records and would be able to talk at length about the strengths and weaknesses of each

[Cheasty]

@EstebanSexface

is he a manager in the LOI or not?

Stephen Bradley is about to win his fourth League Of Ireland title in a row. Why do you think Bradley has 0% chance of being appointed Ireland manager yet Duff, who finished 7th out of 10 teams last season and is currently 5th from 10 teams, will be a live candidate for the job if he wants it?

[caulifloweredneanderthal]

@Julio_Geordio

Be funny if he took over Bohs and got them relegated

I just don’t think the hipsters at Bohs would take to a lad with that haircut. All well and good back in the early 2000s but I don’t think Kenny has a big enough vinyl collection to be loved by them now.

[Cheasty]

@StoneCold

Damien Richardson seems like the kind of lad who would have a vinyl collection of Andean Panpipe records and would be able to talk at length about the strengths and weaknesses of each

He’s like a sound version of Chris Finch.

[StoneCold]

The bourgeois Roddy Collins

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

More the reason to get big Sam. He called out tiki taka years ago.

[Cheasty]

@StoneCold

The bourgeois Roddy Collins

He is a deserving of a Bill Cullen style sketch.

[Cheasty]

Republic of Ireland 1-1 Denmark (18 Nov, 2019) Final Score - ESPN

Ireland had 52.2% possession

Ireland had 15 shots to Denmark’s 3.

Ireland had 8 corners to Denmark’s 3.

We battered Denmark on the play and were a kick of a ball away from qualifying ahead of a team who had beaten us 5-1 at the same venue two years previously and went on to reach the semi-finals of Euro 2020. Tell us again why we got rid of Mick McCarthy?

[Julio_Geordio]

Seems to be the Bohs types who want him to stay on as national team manager. They’d surely be glad of him